Author Topic: Apostrophes  (Read 26649 times)

Fleecewife

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Re: Apostrophes
« Reply #45 on: June 18, 2012, 12:18:14 am »

Plums - spelling mistakes are fine  8)   Spelling changes over time, it's just a fashion and using a keyboard makes most of us make plenty of mistakes


I don't think smelling pistakes are necessary on a key board, if it's wrong it's under lined in red. Discard the American spellings and correct any others. Keep trying 'til it's right, if your still stuck start to type it into Google and it will self finish your word for you, thus correct spelling where required. :eyelashes:

I don't get the corrections of my smelling pistakes when I type on TAS, so no help there  ;D
 
For typing elsewhere, my sheep come up as 'Harridans' not Hebrideans  :sheep: .
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SallyintNorth

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Re: Apostrophes
« Reply #46 on: June 18, 2012, 02:51:36 am »
I much prefer no apostrophes at all to incorrectly placed apostrophes.  Like a few others, I can usually spot an incorrectly placed one at 10 paces (though I'm not a teacher.)

Full stops and short sentences are good  :thumbsup: With gaps in between the sentences sometimes.
:-[   Not my strongest suit, often.  Sorry everyone - can't promise to improve much...  ::)

Then there is the apostrophe used to replace a missed out letter, for example in it is, shortened to it's.  That's fine - I can do that one.  But what about the dog scratched its leg where I think an apostrophe is wrong - but it could be me whose wrong there, or is it who's wrong  ??? ;D ;D
 

No-one answered the second question!  I think it probably is "who's", as in an abbreviated "who is", rather than "whose", meaning belonging to the person we were talking about. 

I thought I was pedantic until my children started pulling me up for lapses.  But the rules of grammar allow some flexibility to avoid the correct use of English being ugly. 


Worse than incorrect grammar though is where someone cannot explain clearly what they mean.  I'd far rather it was wrong but clear.
SF, your later explanation of colons and semicolons was brilliant, thank you very much for that  :thumbsup:

But I can't resist a tease about the above...
I think you meant
Quote
Worse than incorrect grammar though is where someone cannot explain clearly what they mean.  I'd far rather their grammer was wrong but their meaning clear.

rather than
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Worse than incorrect grammar though is where someone cannot explain clearly what they mean.  I'd far rather what they wrote was wrong but clear.

:ducks flying squashed tomatoes:

I only use them when I know it is correct, which is most tho not all of the time.
Here is the chapter and verse on when to use the apostrophe; this guide also covers the 'apostrophe after the end of the word' scenario.
I would say unless people are confident they are using them correctly, leave them off as it is quite distracting to read posts where they are incorrectly used, and no-one is likely to take correction without getting offended.
However the world is unlikely to end.
A ban would be an insult to those who do know how and when to use them, a sort of compulsory dumbing down.
llm, did you mean to include a link in the above?  :eyelashes:

they must all hate my posts :innocent: :farmer:
Not the content, robert - never.  But Oh!  they are so hard to read and decipher!  Sometimes I just give up and accept that I could be missing out on one of your gems.  But I'd much much much rather you kept on posting just as you do than that you didn't post for fear of grammatical critique or (though this doesn't sound like you!  :D) for fear of offending.  (And yes I know that last sentence is difficult to read and understand.  It's supposed to be irony, I think?)

Even in my lifetime (and I'm not really all that old  ::) ) grammar and spelling have changed a small but noticeable amount.  The same has happened in French, in spite of their serious attempts to keep their language 'pure'.   I love language and regional variations in words and pronunciation - I can totally miss out on what someone has said because I have been listening to how they speak not what they are saying  :innocent:    I also have a parrot-like compulsion to immitate accents - which has got me into big trouble in the past  :D

Me too!  Me too!  (Both of the above.)

(And yes, that was also a very wee parrot joke.)

(Here's another :
Q: What goes, "Pieces of seven, pieces of seven." ?
A: A parroty error
)
(Dan will get it  :))


And finally, please can I now have the prizes for the longest post and for the post which includes the most quotes?  :eyelashes:
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tizaala

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Re: Apostrophes
« Reply #47 on: June 18, 2012, 08:43:34 am »
I think it's time I sat in on this one, As you can see: I'm an advocate of the short burst of information, whereas my wife , Gabriele, being German , likes to write sentences that you could buy by the metric yard, I'm sure each German word has been writen by leavingoutthegapsbetweenthem, and has no idea about a concise composition that cuts through the crap and gets to the point. Her cat dose not sit on the mat ; her pedigree Toncanese ( ho chi min x ho li s**t ) glides gracefully across the salon to arrange itself delicately upon the kashmire fibers of the Aubusson hearthrug.
Totally agree about text speak, and as for predictive text......and why do young white kids adopt the spoken ' word ' of the  banana boat culture? like you no wot i meen mon.

Small Farmer

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Re: Apostrophes
« Reply #48 on: June 18, 2012, 09:18:59 am »
Sally, your tease narrows the point only to grammar while the original comment also covered misspelling.   So it's a correction up with which I cannot put!
Being certain just means you haven't got all the facts

jaykay

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Re: Apostrophes
« Reply #49 on: June 18, 2012, 10:34:02 am »
Lol Tiz on German words and sentences.

I remember learning German at school and finding that the word for a tram stop was Strassenbarnhaltestelle (working from 35 years ago memory here so forgive a bit of mistake), which I worked out as 'street train stopping place'.

Which was very logical, if longwinded  :D

SallyintNorth

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Re: Apostrophes
« Reply #50 on: June 18, 2012, 11:33:13 am »
Sally, your tease narrows the point only to grammar while the original comment also covered misspelling.   So it's a correction up with which I cannot put!
;D ;D ;D
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SallyintNorth

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Re: Apostrophes
« Reply #51 on: June 18, 2012, 11:38:32 am »
Now, see, I often call things by what they do as I increasingly can't remember their given names.

Hence 'make-it-be-colds' (ice packs you freeze in freezer then use in cool box), 'squeezy-arms' (non-intrusive bale grab - I am delighted to report that I have heard at least 3 farmers around here call them 'squeezy-arms' in recent times  :D) to name just two.

My dad's favourite German phrase is 'Ickt nickt fer gerfingerpoken' - but I have a feeling he may have made that up...  ;)
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Small Farmer

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Re: Apostrophes
« Reply #52 on: June 18, 2012, 11:50:11 am »
Sally, your tease narrows the point only to grammar while the original comment also covered misspelling.   So it's a correction up with which I cannot put!
;D ;D ;D
Actually I made that up after I saw your comment so it's a reverse tease
Being certain just means you haven't got all the facts

Dan

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Re: Apostrophes
« Reply #53 on: June 18, 2012, 06:17:30 pm »
(Here's another :
Q: What goes, "Pieces of seven, pieces of seven." ?
A: A parroty error
)
(Dan will get it  :) )

 :D :D

We need a geek joke thread in the Jokes & funnies board I think.  ;)

deepinthewoods

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Re: Apostrophes
« Reply #54 on: June 18, 2012, 06:47:52 pm »
Lol Tiz on German words and sentences.

I remember learning German at school and finding that the word for a tram stop was Strassenbarnhaltestelle (working from 35 years ago memory here so forgive a bit of mistake), which I worked out as 'street train stopping place'.
Which was very logical, if longwinded  :D

bustenhalter?  :thumbsup:

jaykay

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Re: Apostrophes
« Reply #55 on: June 18, 2012, 06:49:40 pm »
 :D True  :D

Sudanpan

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Re: Apostrophes
« Reply #56 on: June 18, 2012, 07:09:57 pm »
Another one for Dan:


What is 1 plus 1?


10  ;D ;D


ps - this was vaguely in tune with the thread cos I used a colon  :innocent:

jaykay

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Re: Apostrophes
« Reply #57 on: June 18, 2012, 07:32:53 pm »
And in a similar vein:

There are 10 types of people - those who understand binary and those who don't  ;D

SallyintNorth

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Re: Apostrophes
« Reply #58 on: June 18, 2012, 08:58:57 pm »
Lol Tiz on German words and sentences.

I remember learning German at school and finding that the word for a tram stop was Strassenbarnhaltestelle (working from 35 years ago memory here so forgive a bit of mistake), which I worked out as 'street train stopping place'.
Which was very logical, if longwinded  :D

bustenhalter?  :thumbsup:
Oooohhh - I was told it was uppendeckenfloppenstoppen?
Don't listen to the money men - they know the price of everything and the value of nothing

Live in a cohousing community with small farm for our own use.  Dairy cows (rearing their own calves for beef), pigs, sheep for meat and fleece, ducks and hens for eggs, veg and fruit growing

Fleecewife

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Re: Apostrophes
« Reply #59 on: June 18, 2012, 09:25:31 pm »
My favourite German word is 'luftkissenfahrtzeug' which is of course a hovercraft  8)
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 Love your soil - it's the lifeblood of your land.

 

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