[oaklandspigs]

In England & Wales, isolation is for 20 clear days, so much longer than scotland.

Approved isolation is important if you take pigs to shows and don't want to be on standstill for 20 days.

However we would also recommend isolation (although doesn't need to be approved) for any stock that you bring back from a show, or if you bring stock in for mating (eg sows coming in for boar hire), or for returning boars from being lent out, and if you are breeding when you introduce new stock to the herd.

Getting isolation approved used to be free in England (don't know about Wales & Scotland), as AHVLA paid the vets fee.  Not sure about it now, am just getting a new ones approved, so when I do or don;t get the bvets bill, will let you all know.

[robert waddell]

are you sure oaklands       it is in the back of my memory box that England differed from Scotland and was written about extensively on the e aml subject  England had no back up plan if disease struck  Scotland had a longer shut down period and was a better system    unless they have changed it since its introduction
it has to be approved ( isolation facility's)or any man and his dog could say anything
it was free in Scotland last year and on renewal

[trying]

Hi, interesting thread, We first bought a registered British lop sow, Lucy, in pig, fantastic breed, easy placid etc, only ever registered  3 gilts for breeding out of 4 litters, one of which we kept, Lola, the problem we now find is that like a lot of other people getting anyone to pay £40 for a weaner is getting near impossible The last litter Lola had was a cross with an OSB the only boar we could get at the time, we did manage to sell 11 of the weaners but that was at £30 each. We just can't afford to keep the sows any more and we are going back to just buying in weaners, so sad as I really love my girls

[robert waddell]

hang on in there there is an overall 20% reduction in pigs £30 a piglet you are losing money

[trying]

I know we are loosing money but I don't want to feed them for another month and still only get £30.
We have a friend who due to very tragic circumstances was left on her own with 22, 7 month old unregistered GOS meat pigs for sale and she stuggled to get £50 each and indeed still has 11 hogs left now aged 8 months and impossible to get any buyers, another friend took 3 good ready to slaughter lop meat pigs to Newark market and ended up with £42.50 each
Take a look at Pre-loved, you can barely give pigs away at the moment

[robert waddell]

there must be a local buyer for cheale or other processor's you will get a lot more  better than you are getting it than some fly by night shark

[Sylvia]

Prices in Devon at our local smallholder's market last Saturday. TamworthX Old Spot, 20 weeks old £16 apiece. "Saddleback" weaners(some were almost all saddle) £8 apiece They were 9 weeks old. Some cracking looking Kunekune 12 weeks old, no takers at a fiver apiece.
I had to keep my hands firmly in my pockets!!!
I sold my Kunekune weaners for £40 apiece, no problem but I'm not counting on doing that next time.

[princesspiggy]

there must be a local buyer for cheale or other processor's you will get a lot more  better than you are getting it than some fly by night shark

just wondering - do cheale buy any finished size, as opposed to just the big ones, and how far do they travel to collect?

[robert waddell]

waiting for them to get back with a price   they start there journey from aberdeen

[oaklandspigs]

are you sure oaklands       it is in the back of my memory box that England differed from Scotland and was written about extensively on the e aml subject  England had no back up plan if disease struck  Scotland had a longer shut down period and was a better system    unless they have changed it since its introduction
it has to be approved ( isolation facility's)or any man and his dog could say anything
it was free in Scotland last year and on renewal

Definately 20 days in E&W, before you can mix back in with herds.

England has a enzoootic contingency plan


My point on not having approved is that if you are using purely to introduce stock, rather than to avoid 20 day standstills, then it is a good policy to isolate stock coming in using the isolation principals, rather tha just chuck stock straight into the herd.