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Possum

  • Joined Feb 2012
  • Somerset
Bottles gas hobs?
« on: March 04, 2012, 02:43:59 pm »
Does anyone have any experience of these? If so, do the gas cylinders have to be kept outside? I am hoping that they can be inside provided that they are in an insulated space.
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jaykay

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Cumbria/N Yorks border
Re: Bottles gas hobs?
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2012, 02:46:00 pm »
There was one in this house when we bought it. The cylinder was kept in the cupboard under the hob. It seemed very efficient.

Possum

  • Joined Feb 2012
  • Somerset
Re: Bottles gas hobs?
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2012, 02:54:21 pm »
Wow! What a speedy reply!

Thanks for that. I notice the past tense. Does that mean that you got rid of the LPG?

robert waddell

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Re: Bottles gas hobs?
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2012, 03:27:29 pm »
check on your insurance policy you may find if there is gas cylinders inside you will not get a penny   and it does not seam a very safe way of storing gas :farmer:

gavo

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Re: Bottles gas hobs?
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2012, 04:51:40 pm »
Pretty much everyone over here uses bottled gas for cooking and it HAS to be OUTSIDE :: we live in Northern Ireland it also seems to be the way in Ireland.

Bangbang

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Re: Bottles gas hobs?
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2012, 05:45:52 pm »
I agree with Gavo, all the properties I've worked on with a gas cylinder supply - the supply was always outside
and secured usually in a locked metal cage. Ive never come across a cylinder inside a house so Ive never raised this question.
( Im in scotland and I specialise in property restoration )

jaykay

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Cumbria/N Yorks border
Re: Bottles gas hobs?
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2012, 06:22:13 pm »
We got rid of the gas hob only because the kitchen was upstairs (split house, downstairs was used as holiday flat) and we moved it downstairs and installed an oil-fired Aga.

I'm sure it would be safer if the gas was outside. Here, I don't suppose for a minute anyone would come checking!

colliewoman

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Re: Bottles gas hobs?
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2012, 07:22:43 pm »
I have a gas hob/oven but I keep my bottle outside. I find no matter how good the valves/seals/tubing etc It always stinks of gas by the bottle when it is running down to the dregs. I wouldn't want that indoors ;)
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SallyintNorth

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Re: Bottles gas hobs?
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2012, 09:02:54 pm »
The farmhouse I used to live in had a split hob; half electric and half bottled gas.  Great scheme, worked well.  The only thing is that I don't know whether there are better, newer gas hobs which are more controllable - these didn't really have a 'slow simmer' setting but they were great for anything hotter than that.

I think you'd want the bottles outside.
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lachlanandmarcus

  • Joined Aug 2010
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Re: Bottles gas hobs?
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2012, 09:45:30 pm »
Our static caravan has them outside (but then they are huoooge) and I understand thats the rules now.

However, my parents cooker in France has it 'inside' the cooker not literally but within the housing) and they also have heaters that are gas bottles there. Works fine for them - at least I havent heard a boom yet but it is France not uk.


anderso

  • Joined Jan 2012
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Re: Bottles gas hobs?
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2012, 09:33:24 am »
if using bottle gas they need to be outside the dwelling and have a proper vaule fitted - if using two gas bottles you need to have fitted a switch over vaule fitted.
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Jimbofish67

  • Joined Jun 2011
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Re: Bottles gas hobs?
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2012, 02:51:56 pm »
We live on a static houseboat at the moment and have used bottled gas for the last 7 years for both cooking and central heating.  Both the cooker and combi boiler are of a standard type but have been converted to use LPG.
We store our bottles outside, I know other boats have theirs onboard due to continually moving,  but houseboats have to have regular safety certificates and having the bottles off the boat makes this a lot easier process to get a certificate, part of the issue can be that LPG is heavier than air so collects at floor level which means that leaks are not always noticed as quickly as with natural gas..
We have never noticed any lack of performance using the LPG in comparison to natural gas but my one complaint would be that the local price for a 47kg bottle has risen by over 50% in the last 5 years.

Jim.

henchard

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Re: Bottles gas hobs?
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2012, 03:11:14 pm »
Only for butane I think. Propane must be outside. In any event all installation work must be done by a competent person by law.

The Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations 1998

3.—(1) No person shall carry out any work in relation to a gas fitting or gas storage vessel unless he is competent to do so.


One of the main problems with LPG is that it is heavier than air so any leaks and it sinks into cellars and drains etc. Then one spark and 'boom'.

bazzais

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Re: Bottles gas hobs?
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2012, 06:52:49 pm »
If you install it yourself the gas can be anywhere you like - its very unlikely you'll have any problems without you noticing it - but personally I keep my gas outside as the tubing to make it go outside is so cheap to install and I prefer to keep old plastic bags and half eaten bags of animal food in my kitchen :)

Hobs last for ages though with one bottle - just buy a small one a year - lasts for frickin ages!

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Rich/Jan

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Re: Bottles gas hobs?
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2012, 07:28:30 pm »

we use propane and it is kept outside and doesnt freeze up in cold weather.  By law propane has to be outside whereas butane can be inside - at least this is the regulation in France where we are.  Gas housed inside has to have regulation vents top and bottom in the wall.

 

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