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oaklandspigs

  • Joined Nov 2009
  • East Sussex
    • OaklandsPigs
Schmallenberg virus - some useful info
« on: February 26, 2012, 06:20:55 pm »
I  went to a meeting on Thursday about this disease, and wrote up some notes.  Those with sheep and cattle and goats that have heard about this virus might find them of interest !
For goatkeepers substitute goat for lamb/sheep in the stuff below - I wrote it for my benefit and we don't have goats, but then realised others might want to read !!

If this is the first time you have heard this phrase, then the following article gives somebasics, but is newspaper language so life is about to end!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/agriculture/farming/9105880/Fears-of-catastrophe-as-new-virus-hits-farms.html

Key points from the meeting I went to run by Westpoint Vets with ADAS and the NFU

In the audience of 100 or so, of the 6 farmers that had started lambing 5 had deformed lambs. Rate was 5-15%.
There is a large amount of re-absorbsion from data from those that scanned – singles coming up empty, and twins only having singles – anything up to 10%
Lambs born can be stillborn, can be deformed with locked joints making it very hard for the sheep to lamb – one person said she was regularly breaking lamb legs inside the sheep to get out dead deformed lambs so as to save the sheep.
There are also what are called “silly lambs” – born live but with little brain development, so die quite quickly.
Any like the above can be sent free to AHVLA for SBV analysis (they only test for that, they won’t tell you about anything else unless you pay), and are likely to only do the first positive one, then they are not asking for more.  As cases build this may stop altogether.
All you can do for this year’s lamb crop is cope.
As for future, all the following needs a big caveat – this is an early disease, with little history, however bluetongue spread (also by midges) gives us good data from past, and some of Europe is months ahead of us in lamb cycles so have been through it.  There is also excellent cross European co-operation and information sharing.
However the following is best guestimates from informed sources.  So likely to be true, but not guaranteed!
For sheep, once infected they show no signs of illness, but have it for a couple of weeks.  They then have developed strong immunity to it (potentially life long!).  So once a sheep has had it, it should be ok.
For cattle, they show lots of symptoms that are common with other diseases, but similarly they then have developed strong immunity to it, and should the  be ok.
The issue is IF they get infected or have the virus during the first trimester of pregnancy.  Before mating or after the first trimester and the offspring is not affected. (don’t know whether the yoing inherit the immunity, but if meat doesn’t matter, and for future breeding as long as they get it before mating, then they’ll be ok.
Midges are the likely source of infection, and this is borne out by Defra’s modelling of midge vs. Wind and temperature that shows most danger area is where we are seeing the virus.  Midges are active only at certain temperatures, and the likely period when they can affect is march to October, although that doesn’t mean you can relax on November the 1st!!
Parasite control of the flock/herd may reduce spread, but standard fly protection products don’t do midges, you need spot-on.  However you are too late to help this year and see below may positively want to welcome it now, so consider this before using spot-on.  If you use spot-on on a sheep, then it will kill the midge that bites it, but not before it has infected the sheep, and probably not before it has infected several others of your flock – the poison takes up to a hour or so to work,  so at best you might reduce, but would not protect.
A vaccine is 1-2 years away, and probably won’t be needed as by the time it gets here, all sheep and cattle should have got it (and got over it).
If you are in the south then your strategy is that for this seasons lambing, you will have what you have got now, so cannot do anything about it.  If it proves that once infected you get a long period of immunity, and for sheep there are no side effects, then maybe you should hope that all your sheep get infected during this summer, and then they’ll have protection and next year you’ll be ok, as protected sheep don’t produce deformed/stillborn/silly lambs.
For cattle in the south, the same strategy might apply, hope that they get it, that you don;t get too bad symptoms (eg milk reduction) which only lasts for two weeks in any case, and they get immunity for next year.
Those in the south will also need to consider whether they should buy in stock from the north, that will be naive to the disease (not have had it), and whether to do this earlier so that they might/should get the disease before going to ram/bull or AI.
For those outside the immediate area infected this year, it will depend on how quickly midges spread up north from infected south.  If slowly, then you might get several years of uncertainty (there is no live test at the moment to see if stock has had it) as to whether your particular area has got it/your farm has  got it.  I did ask about deliberately infecting stock so that they get it and get over it – and this might be a possibility  if vaccine doesn’t get here soon.
So that’s what I learnt.  In a way you should hope that all the UK gets it this summer, and then with a long immunity the worry will disappear, although we might be vaccinating future breeding stock in their first lambing/calving season to give their young protection.
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lachlanandmarcus

  • Joined Aug 2010
  • Aberdeenshire
Re: Schmallenberg virus - some useful info
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2012, 06:24:25 pm »
This is hugely useful info, thankyou very much for writing it up for us!! :thumbsup: :trophy:

Hatty

  • Joined Feb 2011
Re: Schmallenberg virus - some useful info
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2012, 07:15:11 pm »
Thank you  :thumbsup: makes it a lot easier to understand
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Lesley Silvester

  • Joined Sep 2011
  • Telford
Re: Schmallenberg virus - some useful info
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2012, 07:45:29 pm »
 :thumbsup:  Thank you for the info.  I, for one, had never heard of it.  Hope my girls get it quickly but being the in the Midlands, it is unlikely.

little blue

  • Joined Jun 2009
  • Derbyshire
Re: Schmallenberg virus - some useful info
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2012, 08:34:51 pm »
just been a short bit on it on Countryfile (i-player it!) showing some of the deformities in lambs,
Little Blue

Anke

  • Joined Dec 2009
  • St Boswells, Scottish Borders
Re: Schmallenberg virus - some useful info
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2012, 08:52:25 pm »
Many thanks oaklands - what would we do without TAS and its helpful members!

ballingall

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  • Joined Sep 2008
  • Avonbridge, Falkirk
Re: Schmallenberg virus - some useful info
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2012, 09:28:58 pm »
That's great info, thanks very much.

Beth

Fleecewife

  • Joined May 2010
  • South Lanarkshire
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Re: Schmallenberg virus - some useful info
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2012, 10:42:52 pm »
Thank you oaklandspigs for taking the time to share that info.  You have put a more positive slant on the disease than I have so far heard  :thumbsup:
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countrywoman

  • Joined Nov 2011
Re: Schmallenberg virus - some useful info
« Reply #8 on: February 29, 2012, 07:05:05 pm »
Another thank you - clear information, well described.  I feel a lot less panicky about this now!  Hoping my pregnant doe was mated late enough (Nov 22nd) for midges not to have bitten her.

 

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