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Rhyan & Melissa

  • Joined Dec 2008
  • Lincolnshire
Re: traditionally farming neighbours
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2009, 08:41:26 pm »
Petrol bomb his tractor and batter the living s**t out of him???

what a complete W@%*ker - some people are just a waste of the oxygen they breath. Why can't people just be nice?
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sabrina

  • Joined Nov 2008
Re: traditionally farming neighbours
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2009, 09:20:27 pm »
Spraying by farmers is a problem I am well aware off. 7 years ago my neighbour decided to spray his barley on a very windy day. I had a mare and foal in the field next to his, she almost died and I had to fight just to get him to pay the vet bills. As i was outside I got covered and was ill for a year, coughing, chest problems. Doctor treated me for chest infections because at the time  i did not put two and two together. We took pictures off our field at all the dead weeds and also lost plants in the garden behind the house. I sometimes wonder if thats the reason  I ended up with cancer.

rustyme

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Re: traditionally farming neighbours
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2009, 12:44:30 am »
Now thats what I would do Rhyan  :o ;D .......there is just no talking to some people . Sadly I am turning into an old fogey though ......bout time I got a big stick ...oh !!! already got one .. a baseball bat...... ;D ;D Violence never solves a problem , I know....but it sometimes helps !!!!
    Sabrina , I wish I could remember the name of the stuff the farmer I knew was spraying his barley with ..... that WAS carcinogenic !!!!!!! How the hell can they be allowed to use these chemicals ???? I don't even want to think about what I have been sprayed with in the past ....it is a wonder anyone survives at all really ......

cheers

Russ

doganjo

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Clackmannanshire
  • Qui? Moi?
Re: traditionally farming neighbours
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2009, 10:31:29 am »
As i was outside I got covered and was ill for a year, coughing, chest problems. Doctor treated me for chest infections because at the time  i did not put two and two together. We took pictures off our field at all the dead weeds and also lost plants in the garden behind the house. I sometimes wonder if thats the reason  I ended up with cancer.
Have you thought of contacting a lawyer - you could perhaps get compensation if you have dates, times and photographs.  Your vet would have these from his bills.
Always have been, always will be, a WYSIWYG - black is black, white is white - no grey in my life! But I'm mellowing in my old age

northfifeduckling

  • Joined Jan 2009
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Re: traditionally farming neighbours
« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2009, 05:41:11 pm »
My heart goes out to you, Sabrina. It is well possible that your suspicions are right. I know how ill my friend was and still is, she'll never be the same as before. I also knew a wine farmer in Italy where I used to holiday with my parents who sprayed his crops without a mask over years until he got cancer.
I just can't get over the fact that we have no rights against them, no protection from bl..... poisons. Something's not right here. :&>

Hilarysmum

  • Joined Oct 2007
Re: traditionally farming neighbours
« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2009, 06:25:00 pm »
Perhaps its time we all stood up and shouted very loudly instead of being so damned polite.

chickens

  • Joined Jan 2008
Re: traditionally farming neighbours
« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2009, 08:05:49 pm »
Hear hear Hilary's mum - it is time we all shouted, I for one am ready to scream the rooftops off, it is time this was all stopped

sabrina

  • Joined Nov 2008
Re: traditionally farming neighbours
« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2009, 08:21:05 pm »
We did think about talking to a lawyer but my doctor pointed out that time had passed and if we had thought at the time and had done blood test etc then maybe we could have been able to prove that his spraying was the cause of my illness. He treated us as if we had done the crime, his children were not allowed to talked to us and up until all this happened I looked after them after school for over three years. he made our life as difficult as he could we think with the hope that we would sell up and move but I have never backed down to a bully in my life. Just getting what had been used on the field for the vet to know what he was up against was a fight, he planned to go on holiday without telling us but I got in touch with the local company who supplied the stuff so he had to come clean. Vet was amazed that my pony came through it, she did nothing but drink water poor soul, this saved her.

chickens

  • Joined Jan 2008
Re: traditionally farming neighbours
« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2009, 08:27:58 pm »
but you are very important Sabrina and the money may come in useful in your situation for medical care etc, when my father had cancer they told me exactly what caused it even though it was 15 years afterwards, I do not know your situation and do not mean to pry so excuse me, but there must be a way they can tell what has caused it, I do hope that you have won or are winning your battle against this illness


doganjo

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Clackmannanshire
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Re: traditionally farming neighbours
« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2009, 12:50:01 am »
Remember your doctor has only a very little training in law compared to a professional solicitor; he is looking after your health, so you should contact a criminal injuries lawyer.
Always have been, always will be, a WYSIWYG - black is black, white is white - no grey in my life! But I'm mellowing in my old age

northfifeduckling

  • Joined Jan 2009
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Re: traditionally farming neighbours
« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2009, 06:41:19 pm »
Just thought I let you all have DEFRA's reply, as you can imagine I am still miffed - no way out as we have no rights and a farmer we can't talk to and just worked his field for barley up to the last inch of our hedge...If you read this, Rosemary or Dan - would this be something that you might discuss in your Association??? :&>



>>As the law stands, a user of pesticide, such as a farmer or a grower, does not have to notify the public of their intention to spray, nor what product(s) they are using. Should you wish to know what has been sprayed, you may wish to approach the farmer directly and enquire as to what has been sprayed, although this will be on the goodwill of the farmer to tell you. The National Farmers Union have produced a leaflet entitled ‘The Good Neighbour Initiative’ which I have attached for your convenience.

 

Pesticide Approval

 

Pesticides are potentially hazardous substances and the United Kingdom has an extensive range of legislative and administrative controls over their approval, storage, marketing and use. These contribute to a clear Government policy of providing effective means of pest and disease control consistent with protecting the safety of people, animals and the environment.

 

Only approved pesticides can be advertised, sold, supplied, stored or used. It is because pesticides are effective against pests and diseases that they pose a potential risk to people and the environment. Applicants for pesticide approvals must show that their products are effective, humane and pose no unacceptable risks to human beings, the environment, wildlife and other non-target species before approval will be granted.

 

Therefore, all pesticide manufacturers are required to provide a wide range of scientific data, which is evaluated by scientific experts in Chemicals Regulation Directorate (CRD) or the Health & Safety Executive (HSE).

 

This data is then scrutinised by the independent experts of the Advisory Committee on Pesticides (ACP), who make recommendations to Ministers. When the Ministers responsible for pesticides are satisfied on the basis of this expert advice that the product can be used without unacceptable risk to people and animals and with minimal risk to the environment will authority to put it on the market be granted.

 

At present there is no requirement for farmers to leave an unsprayed area when spraying near houses. However the risk posed to people in the countryside from pesticide spray drift is assessed as an integral part of the pesticide approvals process. If the risk assessment is not satisfactiory then that pesticide use would not be approved.

 

The risk posed to people living in the countryside and to wildlife from pesticide spray drift is assessed as an integral part of the pesticide approvals process. The risk assessment takes into account various factors such as wind direction and strength, the application method, sprayed volume rate, droplet size and uniformity, the speed of any vehicle used and sprayer mechanism width.

 

Spraying Requirements

 

Everyone who uses a pesticide has a legal responsibility to ensure that all reasonable precautions are taken to protect the health of human beings, creatures and plants, to safeguard the environment and in particular to avoid pollution of water.  Advice to farmers and growers on how to meet their responsibilities under the legislation is given in the statutory Code of Practice for Using Plant Protection Products.  Please see the following weblink: http://www.pesticides.gov.uk/safe_use.asp?id=64.  The detailed guidance on crop spraying is given in Section 4 Working with pesticides.

 

Although failure to follow the Code's guidance is not in itself an offence, it may be used as evidence against the user if prosecuted for breach of the approval. The Code includes specific advice to users to carry out suitable and sufficient assessments of the risk to health from the use of a pesticide before work starts. Users are directed to consider whether anybody might be at risk from exposure, to assess the potential for spray drift taking account of the application methods and weather conditions and are advised to give prior notice to occupiers of land or premises nearby.

 

If anyone believes they have encountered spray drift because a pesticide has not been used correctly then they should contact their local HSE office. The address and phone number for the local HSE office will be in your local Phone Book under 'Health and Safety Executive’. Alternatively the HSE Incident Line could also be able to provide assistance and their telephone number is 0845 300 9923. I have placed another link to our website which will provide you with further information should you wish to contact the HSE Incident Line, http://www.pesticides.gov.uk/approvals.asp?id=196.

 

The Wildlife Incident Investigation Scheme (WIIS) investigates the deaths of wildlife, including beneficial insects and some pets, throughout the UK where there is evidence that pesticide poisoning may be involved. The Scheme is used to monitor pesticide use after approval, so that product approvals can be revised if necessary. It also provides a measure of the success of the pesticide registration process, and helps in the verification and improvement of the risk assessments made in this process.

 

WIIS has a long association with the Wildlife Incident Unit at the Food and Environment Research Agency (FERA). They use their expertise to analyse a variety of animal tissues, including gut contents, vomit, faeces, blood, urine, liver, kidney and lung. Evidence from the Scheme can also be used to enforce legislation on the use of pesticides and the protection of humans, food, the environment and animals.

 

Where poisoning is suspected, a combination of field work, veterinary examination and chemical analysis is used to try and determine the underlying cause of death.

The Scheme operates independently, but on similar lines, in the four countries of the United Kingdom. 'Incidents Involving Pesticides and Animals' (pdf, 8 pages) explains how WIIS works in England - how it is organised, how to report an incident, where to report it and what happens afterwards. It is sent to people who report suspected poisoning incidents.

 

In Wales, WIIS is run by the Welsh Assembly Government.

 

In Scotland, WIIS is run by the Scottish Agricultural Science Agency (SASA).

 

In Northern Ireland, WIIS is run by the Department of Agriculture and Rural Development.


I hope this is helpful. If you require any further information please contact us again.

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