Author Topic: Who says horses are frightened of pigs?  (Read 12039 times)

SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • Cornwall
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Who says horses are frightened of pigs?
« on: November 21, 2011, 09:23:33 am »

Mind, his eyes widened when we brought their mum round!
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Bionic

  • Joined Dec 2010
  • Talley, Carmarthenshire
Re: Who says horses are frightened of pigs?
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2011, 09:27:14 am »
Looks like he can't work it all out but he is definitely interested
Sally
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robert waddell

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Re: Who says horses are frightened of pigs?
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2011, 10:19:51 am »
now sally that is not strictly scientific               they are both on the same holding so relatively used to each other      bring a strange horse on that has not been used to pigs then see the action
but yes they can coexist perfectly :farmer:

HappyHippy

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Re: Who says horses are frightened of pigs?
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2011, 10:54:12 am »
Oh Sally - they're so chunky looking  :love: :pig: :love:
Mind, I reckon he's thinking hmmm  :yum:
Karen  :wave:

jaykay

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Cumbria/N Yorks border
Re: Who says horses are frightened of pigs?
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2011, 11:32:23 am »
Great pic  ;D Who could dislike such cute little wanderers  :love: :pig:

SallyintNorth

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Re: Who says horses are frightened of pigs?
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2011, 12:02:17 pm »
Oh Sally - they're so chunky looking  :love: :pig: :love:

Err... do you think they're too chunky?  In "show condition"?  ;) By which, of course, I mean, do you think they're too fat?  (I can take it.  If they are, I cut their feed and save money!  :))
Don't listen to the money men - they know the price of everything and the value of nothing

Live in a cohousing community with small farm for our own use.  Dairy cows (rearing their own calves for beef), pigs, sheep for meat and fleece, ducks and hens for eggs, veg and fruit growing

robert waddell

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Re: Who says horses are frightened of pigs?
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2011, 12:18:43 pm »
it all depends on who is looking at them        they are not at the size to layer fat on      it also depends on what and how much you are feeding  also if they are freeranging as opposed to wandering about          what size are you wanting them to go at and do you want to maintain there present growth rate
personally i don't think they are chunky  they are saddelback crosses  :farmer:

HappyHippy

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Re: Who says horses are frightened of pigs?
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2011, 01:20:36 pm »
No Sally, they're not too fat ! Like Robert says they don't get fat at this age - just convert all the food into growth. I mean chunky in the sense that they look really healthy, growing well and have a good covering - no apparent runts or skinny ones, all just good & chunky  :thumbsup: (but maybe chunky's not the right word  ???) If I thought they were fat, I'd tell you  ;) They (and you) are doing a grand job Xx

WaltDisneyWorld

  • Joined Apr 2011
Re: Who says horses are frightened of pigs?
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2011, 02:29:33 pm »
That is such a lovely photo, the piglets look beautiful, they look like they have been polished!

princesspiggy

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Re: Who says horses are frightened of pigs?
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2011, 06:45:24 am »
out of 20 ponies, we only have one that cannot tolerate pigs, and goes bonkers to get away, even tho hes seen them all his life.
lovely foto  :D

humphreymctush

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Re: Who says horses are frightened of pigs?
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2011, 08:58:45 am »
We were discussing this the other day. A friend was telling me how her horse saw a pig and stood rooted to the spot for a full 24 hours. They had to bring him food and water and put a warm rug on him until eventually he forgot about the pig and started to move again.

jaykay

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Cumbria/N Yorks border
Re: Who says horses are frightened of pigs?
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2011, 06:06:29 pm »
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We were discussing this the other day. A friend was telling me how her horse saw a pig and stood rooted to the spot for a full 24 hours. They had to bring him food and water and put a warm rug on him until eventually he forgot about the pig and started to move again.
:o wow, that is scared!

waterhouse

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Re: Who says horses are frightened of pigs?
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2011, 01:50:21 am »
OH did a treatise on this for her HND having noticed that her Selle Francais x TB was petrified with fear by half a dozen small pigs near the yard.  And 650kg of petrified takes some handling.

She did a series of control experiments with a dozen horses on the yard to test for general spookiness.  These involved things like opening umbrellas suddenly, making noises and so forth.  Each horse was led on a lunge line and the distance of deviation from the straight path measured.  Then she did some tests using combinations of piglike dummies, genuine pig poo and finally genuine pigs.

The horses could spot the genuine article and all but one made a large diversion around the pigs, larger than any other disturbing event.  The exception, an 18hh fellow, was completely imperturbable.  Nothing including the pigs moved him, but he was scared of people.  Any new person entering his box would get th full ears back retreating to the far corner treatment.

jaykay

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Re: Who says horses are frightened of pigs?
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2011, 02:00:43 am »
That's so interesting!
But why should they be so scared of pigs?

Oddly, when my parents were fostering two donkeys, folk riding down the lane the other side of the hedge reported having great difficulty getting horses past the donkeys and when I asked if it was because they wanted to 'chat' was told 'no, they're scared of them'.

SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
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Re: Who says horses are frightened of pigs?
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2011, 09:45:02 am »
That is fascinating, waterhouse.  We've two Dales and two Fell ponies here, and the TB that lodged for a while - and none of them has been in the slightest bit frightened of the pigs; certainly not any different to how they are with any new thing.

Horses being so very empathetic, one wonders whether the handler's expectation induces or at least encourages the reaction.  It would be hard to eradicate that element from your OH's experiment, but you do hear of people riding horses past pigs where the rider was unaware of the pigs until the horse started reacting to them.

As to the 'why?' - I don't know, most people seem to think it's some deep-rooted memory dating back to when the horses would have been wild and possibly hunted by wild boar.  But the fact that our natives seem unperturbed would suggest it isn't that.
Don't listen to the money men - they know the price of everything and the value of nothing

Live in a cohousing community with small farm for our own use.  Dairy cows (rearing their own calves for beef), pigs, sheep for meat and fleece, ducks and hens for eggs, veg and fruit growing

 

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