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suziequeue

  • Joined Feb 2010
  • Llanidloes; Powys
Kitchen knives
« on: May 28, 2011, 07:28:03 am »
What are the best kitchen knives to get?

I want knives that sharpen well and store well - just to use for domestic kitchen use.
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Norfolk Newby

  • Joined Aug 2009
  • West Norfolk, UK
Re: Kitchen knives
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2011, 09:24:05 am »
Hi Suzie

If I was looking for a good kitchen knife there are a couple of things I would look for:

Where the blade meets the handle it should become thicker, probably with an oval section piece. The handle then fits onto this fatter bit. The reason is that any sideways force on the blade produces the largest stress in the metal where the blade meets the handle and this thicker part is strong enough not to bend or break.

Also look to see that the handle (usually two pieces of wood or plastic) are properly riveted onto the metal. It can be hard to tell but look anyway.

You can get knives with stiff strong blades which are good for most jobs but it is also useful to have a small knife with a flexible blade. These cost quite a lot but the strength and springy nature of the blade means that it is tough and won't break.

If you buy a well made general purpose knife, the blade with probably be made of good quality stainless steel. These are tough, do not rust and take a good cutting edge. However, the steel can't be very hard or the blade edge gets chipped like it was made of glass. Cheap stainless knives are quite soft and any edge quickly wears away and they go blunt. However, you can also get Japanese knives with a very hard edge and these are great for finely slicing meat BUT the edge is easily damaged. These are expensive.

If you can get a diamond sharpening 'stone' (it is really a piece of metal with fine pieces of diamond pressed into the surface) it is really good at producing a fine sharp edge on any knife. It is not meant for grinding metal but just producing the final cutting edge so it is to be used carefully. An oil stone is better if the knife needs a new edge, then use the diamond stone for the last few strokes.

Now as to price. I think the best knives come from Germany - probably Solingen. A small knife will be around £20 and a large one (for carving the Sunday roast) £25 to £30. The Japanese carving/slicing knives cost £45+.

Now these knives will last you all your life if looked after. They will stay sharp, cut through tough stuff like pig cheeks and sinew like it was butter. The handle won't come off or apart and they will be a pleasure to use.

Look in a good kitchen shop locally or if you can get to London or other large city, go where the restaurant trade get their equipment. In London this is just south of Soho where Charing Cross Road meets Shaftesbury Avenue.

If you are offered old fashioned non-stainless steel knives, they can be very good but they do rust and therefore need drying after washing. The edge rusts and this blunts the blade. They aren't good for cutting fruit as they rust and spoil the taste of the fruit as a result. You can't put a decent knife in the dish washer either.

These links might help
http://www.knives-from-solingen.com/ha.htm
http://www.japaneseknifecompany.com/JKCSHOP.aspx



 
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lazybee

  • Joined Mar 2010
Re: Kitchen knives
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2011, 10:15:35 am »
Hello,
I reckon you can't go far wrong with Swibo These: http://www.utensilsdirect.co.uk/range.asp?rangeid=406 My dad was a butcher and used them for years.
The other brand he had were Victorinox (the Swiss army people) these two makes are good honest knives and built to earn their keep and used in the trade.

LB

HappyHippy

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Re: Kitchen knives
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2011, 12:23:40 pm »
I like my Global Knives, they ARE pricy - but worth it  ;)
You've got the added advantage of them being moulded from one piece of metal so no worries about handles coming off - super sharp and used by many professional chefs, plus they look really funky (I know, I know - I'm such a girl ! ::) ) ;D
http://www.globalknives.uk.com/
You don't need to splash out on a full set, just buy one and see what you think. (go for a small-medium sized one and you'll find you never pick up another knife again) ;)
Karen  :wave:

Plantoid

  • Joined May 2011
  • Yorkshireman on a hill in wet South Wales
Re: Kitchen knives
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2011, 12:29:25 am »
We have a 22 yr old set of Sabatier steel chefs  knives ..
They are a simple sandwich of quality steel encased in stainless steel slices . The blade is a flat billet wwith a forged thickening at the handle then going back to the billet thickness.

Handles are a heat .dish washer safe pheonlic plastic that is riveted on  .

 I can get them sharp enough to shave hairs off my arm  using just the steel to sharpen them , They never go in the dish washer , are always washed straight after use and dried .

When putting them in the knife block we put them in with the back of the knife facing downwards so the cutting edge is not trying to carve out the stainless steel block face plate .
The knives are only used for cutting food ..not axes or frozen food choppers , they are also only used  on soft poly plastic cutting boards when cutting up fresh meat or veg  .
They are never used to cut sandwiches whilst they are on a plate as this will kill the edges.
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Antz

  • Joined May 2011
Re: Kitchen knives
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2011, 10:27:22 pm »
If you want decent knives go for professional chef ones. I have mostly victorinox rosewood handled knives, been using them daily in a busy catering kitchen for at least 8 years, still as good as new. In a domestic kitchen they should last forever. For a slightly cheaper option try the hygplas range.
Try www.nisbets.co.uk . If you ever go near bristol they have a trade counter in Avonmouth, all the knives are on display for you to pick up and try.
Ceramic knives seem the way forward, expensive and a bit brittle but stay sharp for a very long time.
I find the trick to keeping knives sharp is little and often using a diamond steel.

 

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