Author Topic: the veggie plot.  (Read 258105 times)

rustyme

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Re: the veggie plot.
« Reply #120 on: March 04, 2008, 05:33:26 pm »
Another lovely day here again today !!! I didn't expect that !! Still, I will take it .It has gone very cold now though , but it is meant to warm up again, although get much wetter  .
       I got another goodly chunk of ground dug today . There maybe 2 days left of digging ( this bit ) depending on weather . The ground left to dig is about 20' wide and 15' foot of it is easy ::) digging to one spade depth ,the other 5' is very hard ground so therefore slows progress a lot . However , as I am down to about 6 feet or so left to go , it should be all done soon  ::) . About a quarter of it will need doing with the pick axe , that is a very slow job with me . Pick axes and my back and shoulder do NOT mix at all. Still ... the end IS in sight .
  I am having a very hard job though, stopping myself from looking at the comfrey bed , and the artichoke bed , and the grain plot , and the willow bed. They all need digging  :o :o OMG ...why do I do it ?

Guy

  • Joined Feb 2008
  • East Devon
Re: the veggie plot.
« Reply #121 on: March 04, 2008, 09:25:06 pm »
you do it because it makes you a better person!!! :D - plus you would be bored otherwise!! i managed to get the  wood for the raised beds put together today - but not the carrots thinned - alas!
relax and enjoy life - let others do the worrying

rustyme

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Re: the veggie plot.
« Reply #122 on: March 05, 2008, 12:06:28 am »
ahhhh right ... that would make me a saint then ,(with the amount I am digging) .....Saint Russell ....yep I could live with that .... 8) but could the rest of the world ?..... :o ... I doubt it ... ??? oh well day dream over  ::) back to just plain old ( very old ) Russ.... :( ....
   Well done with the raised bed stuff ....soon be full of the first crop .....oh thats like me full of cr**...er no, thats a different thing altogether ????... well done anyway... ;D ;D ;D

stephen

  • Joined Oct 2007
  • Kent
Re: the veggie plot.
« Reply #123 on: March 05, 2008, 08:52:37 am »
i am well chuffed! for the first time ever in my life i am having a go at growing vegetables (from seed)  in some pots around the garden! my garlic has sprouted twice!!! i dont think i have ever been so happy!! quite sad but i feel very proud! im waiting on my potatoes, carrots, raddish and spring onions now! last year i brought some vegetable plants and tried to raise them in a veg grow bag, they all died quite quickly tho! i dont normally have a problem with flowers, i ignore all the stuff on the back of the packet, decide where i want them dig a hole chuck the seeds in and they always grow! i just hope that my two babies (garlic plants!) dont suddenly decide they are going to go and rot away on me!  ;D ;D ;D

Fluffywelshsheep

  • Joined Oct 2007
  • Near Stirling, Central Scotland
Re: the veggie plot.
« Reply #124 on: March 05, 2008, 11:08:44 am »
hehe keep going trail and error is normally the best way to go :)

rustyme

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Re: the veggie plot.
« Reply #125 on: March 05, 2008, 04:27:25 pm »
well done Stephen ,
                  the first ones are always the hardest and probably the most satisfying to grow. I got my first allotment  when I was about 11, and most of the 39 years since, I have grown something . However , even now things go wrong ! one year you may get a great crop of one thing and another just disappears  without trace . Another year it could be the other way round. So many things can affect the success or failure of veg it really is just a matter of give it a go and hope for the best really . Provide as much of the plants requirements as possible and leave the rest to nature. Most of the time it works. But never give up if something fails , just keep going and try something else till the next year. The best thing to keep in mind is look around and what do you see ? plants growing just about everywhere. They will succeed to one degree or another . In the main it is humans that do more damage to them . Garlic are , as a rule ,  pretty much indestructable . I can't remember any failing ? It just depends on the weather and where they were grown originally. I have only ever grown ones bought from the supermarket and from the year before crop. Same with spuds , never bought seed potatoes. Funny thing too, digging the plot today I dug up 3 nice big spuds from the year before lasts crop . That has sorted din dins for tonight ...   Good luck with the seeds ....

cheers

Russ

rustyme

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Re: the veggie plot.
« Reply #126 on: March 05, 2008, 05:12:14 pm »
I managed to get about half of what is left to dig, done today. That left, is now just pick axe stuff !!! So not sure how many days it will take to do . I would like to think that it will only take one day . It will, however, depend on my shoulder and back. Once it is done , I am going to have a day or two completely 'digging free'. I really need it  :D. Stone collecting and carrying will take over for a while anyway. Just hope that the black hole has closed up  ;D ;D

Fluffywelshsheep

  • Joined Oct 2007
  • Near Stirling, Central Scotland
Re: the veggie plot.
« Reply #127 on: March 05, 2008, 05:17:09 pm »
hehe russ why did you have to remind me that i need to put the tatties out in to pots, It's too cold, I want to stay indoor next to the fire lol
also try in to get s dh fiance to get me some tyres from work with out getting in to trouble

I have 3 raised bed now and plenty of cardboard to put in them (I asked on freecycle)lol

rustyme

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Re: the veggie plot.
« Reply #128 on: March 05, 2008, 05:30:11 pm »
sorry Linz,
            stay by the fire mate....the tatties will wait for a warm day  ;D     You could easily get tyres from freecycle too surely?  Well done with the raised beds too. What do you use the cardboard for Linz ? ontop to supress weed ? Sorry if I am asking a daft question , just I am really old school style gardening  ;)

Fluffywelshsheep

  • Joined Oct 2007
  • Near Stirling, Central Scotland
Re: the veggie plot.
« Reply #129 on: March 05, 2008, 05:39:02 pm »
yeah am a lazy gardenner i put the cardboard down on top of the grass (the land was used as comunial ground) then put clean soil on top
no tyres have got to be disposed of properly so very unlikly for a 'normal' freecycle member to have any have asked before and had no luck but my s dd finance work in a garage so thought i would see if he could get me any

Linz

rustyme

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Re: the veggie plot.
« Reply #130 on: March 05, 2008, 06:00:30 pm »
ahhh right with you now. Yes he should be able to get you at least some tyres.... Shame you aren't nearer , I can get hundreds ...only problem is they have the wheels in them still .... Funny story about communal land...A friend of mine bought a house (years ago ) near a chapel . He cleared his very overgrown garden and dug a veggie patch , well he actually used my rotavator to do the job . He did a really good job of it too , and grew loads of veg, then while digging by hand after the first year , he started to dig up bits of old wood and then some sort of animal bones ....well yes you guessed it , he was digging up an old graveyard . It hadn't been used in living memory , and was only after checking the chapel records that they found out that his garden had been part of the cemetery back in the early 1800's. Like me you may think that they dig graves 6 foot deep , well they do now , but didn't always back then . Plus they would put family members into the same grave one ontop of the other . So after a few years they are only a little way under the surface.  Well , after lots of police visits and council people the area was dug up and cleared . My mate laid a lawn over the area and sold the house.
  He did however grow some really good veg there for a while .... :o :o

Guy

  • Joined Feb 2008
  • East Devon
Re: the veggie plot.
« Reply #131 on: March 05, 2008, 08:39:56 pm »
ooo eer Russ - that sounds a queer story and no denying it -"it was a dark stormy night............." type of story!!
Hopefully i wont encounter much in the way of corpses when i dig my new beds :o - garlic , alas , is less than indestructable in my garden - never had a good crop (although we are trying again this year) - hope yours remain happy and healthy stephen! - as Russ (that is saint Russ!) says , it can all be about trial and error (try to keep a record of what problems you have had and where , for future reference - i lost a whole crop of leeks 2006 - moved them  to another site  2007 any hey presto , we are still picking them!!! ;D
linz - i must admit  i like sitting in front of my fire (although i nearly cleaved my thumb off when chopping logs yesterday!) but you cant beat strolling around the veggie garden first thing , when its v . cold and fresh , seeing how it is all coming on :)
relax and enjoy life - let others do the worrying

Fluffywelshsheep

  • Joined Oct 2007
  • Near Stirling, Central Scotland
Re: the veggie plot.
« Reply #132 on: March 05, 2008, 08:44:47 pm »
lol he was lucky that he didn't discover any old world diesease too
Did you ever wonder why the grass in grave yards is very green it the high nitroge and oxygen,  plants love it .



rustyme

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Re: the veggie plot.
« Reply #133 on: March 05, 2008, 09:14:39 pm »
Leek soup ...luverly.... yes sometimes things work , another time nothing ....zippo , zilch ,nadda, or in English, not a single bean old chap......lol.  I dug up a load of bones once ...I really thought they were human , till I got to the skull . Boy was I glad it was a sheeps skull . I read in a book about old farming ways once , how they used to put dead work horses into the manure heap . It was back in the days when heaps were really big 20'x however long needed. They would have to put the horses body/ skeleton through a number of times till it was comp pletely gone. The reason they did it was, it was just easier to drag the horse there and then pile up manure ontop ,than dig a huge hole to lay the horse in . No diggers in those days , so it was just the easy way out plus the horse would go back on the land it had lived it's life on .
 Speaking of old world diseases, I once followed the University boat race along the Thames , (it was only a 20 minute train ride from where i lived ) while walking along the riverbank after the race , I saw a taped off area. Now I was a nosey young kid of about 12 or so, so I looked round and there was nobody in sight , so in I went to see what was to be seen .... Well it was a load of old bones in a huge hole . I mean it was about 20'x 60' or even more . It instantly reminded me of the death camps in the war. I got out of there so fast it was unreal ... what it turned out to be was, they were clearing old buildings along the bank when they uncovered an old plague pit ...full to the brim , and theres me walking around in it ...yuk ....I think I may have started to convert it into a manure heap , it scared me so much.  I still poke my nose in where I shouldn't though .... dem bones   dem bones   dem dry bones !!!!

Guy

  • Joined Feb 2008
  • East Devon
Re: the veggie plot.
« Reply #134 on: March 05, 2008, 09:38:58 pm »
phew , a plague pit - sounds akin to the canteen at work :D - fascinating though , in a morbib kind of way
relax and enjoy life - let others do the worrying

 

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