Author Topic: the veggie plot.  (Read 257954 times)

Fluffywelshsheep

  • Joined Oct 2007
  • Near Stirling, Central Scotland
Re: the veggie plot.
« Reply #150 on: March 07, 2008, 11:39:42 am »
i found this went i did a search

http://www.cityfarmer.org/petwaste.html


rustyme

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Re: the veggie plot.
« Reply #151 on: March 07, 2008, 11:44:58 am »
 Parrot dropping would be ok , once again, best to go through the compost heap though ! The sand paper I would put through the heap too . As for the seed, I used to keep budgies and parrots and put all the waste through a heap and then on the allotment , well I grew a goodly crop of sunflowers millet and even hemp.... saved a fortune on bird feed.  It is best to compost anything really, as putting it straight onto a flower or veg bed will cause nitrogen inbalances due to the decomosition process. Plus most manures will be far too strong 'fresh' for most plants . One exception to that would be comfrey . That can cope with huge amounts of fresh manure and thrive.

Russ

stephen

  • Joined Oct 2007
  • Kent
Re: the veggie plot.
« Reply #152 on: March 07, 2008, 11:52:35 am »
thanks for the replys! think ill stick with throwing it away for the time being until we have more space and i can compost it or use the idea in the link linz provided!  ;D

Guy

  • Joined Feb 2008
  • East Devon
Re: the veggie plot.
« Reply #153 on: March 07, 2008, 11:53:08 am »
Russ , ive heard loads around comfrey - is it used for a liquid fertiliser or such like? if so how good /easy to grow?

looking to the final end product of all our composting activities- the purple sprouting is now in abundance and awaiting harvesting - best crop ever ( not difficult as last year the dog got in and trampled it all to nothing!!!) plus when i see the cost of it at work it gives you even more reason to be cheery ;D

also - the new calabrese seedlings and cauli seedlings are starting to say "hello" in the greenhouse ( get ready for a massive cold snap to kill them off! ::) - better get some more parraffin ready for the heater!  
relax and enjoy life - let others do the worrying

rustyme

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Re: the veggie plot.
« Reply #154 on: March 07, 2008, 12:17:52 pm »
Comfrey is just about as easy as it comes , to grow. The best type to get is bocking 14. It is a sterile variety and therefore won't seed all over the place.  You start off with a root cutting , I got mine from chase organics, and whenever you want more just dig up a plant , and take some of the thick root chop it into 1" sections,  plant,  and away it goes . You can use it as a liquid feed , just cut some comfrey stick it in a barrel fill with water and leave for a few weeks . The gunk that comes out stinks to high heaven , but when watered down is a very good feed. You can also just cut it for the compost heap . You can cut the plants every 6 weeks or so and if you put plenty of manure on it , it will provide huge amounts for composting.
    Well done with the purple sprouting....that is sooo lovely fresh , and from what I have read , is very very good for you too.   If heating oil is still cheaper than parraffin you can use that instead. I tried it in parraffin lamps and it worked fine.

Guy

  • Joined Feb 2008
  • East Devon
Re: the veggie plot.
« Reply #155 on: March 07, 2008, 12:25:04 pm »
thanks russ - thats good to know - i will start to look into it - much better than putting anything manmade onto the garden if poss.

didnt think of using heating oil - tick v.g.
well off to work for me now - my turn on "duty" to face the wrath of the customers , abuse of the staff and the general chaos that is working in retail (at least i have the thought of my  quiet easy life here to keep me sane :D lol)
relax and enjoy life - let others do the worrying

rustyme

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Re: the veggie plot.
« Reply #156 on: March 07, 2008, 12:29:27 pm »


thats Josie my big lump of a horse. She is about 16 hands + so is a fair size, she has some Clydesdale in her so is quite heavy . The other ponies are much smaller , still able to do some work though .

stephen

  • Joined Oct 2007
  • Kent
Re: the veggie plot.
« Reply #157 on: March 07, 2008, 02:01:54 pm »
very nice russ... like the white nose and "boots" (dont know if thats the right term!)  ;D

rustyme

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Re: the veggie plot.
« Reply #158 on: March 07, 2008, 03:22:54 pm »
Blaze and socks I call them , but that doesn't mean it's right ...lol. She is nice, as are the others...it's just the food bill that isn't so nice !!!

stephen

  • Joined Oct 2007
  • Kent
Re: the veggie plot.
« Reply #159 on: March 07, 2008, 03:27:34 pm »
haha i know that feeling!! we get a breeders discount on cat food but the bill is still always massive, still you get what you pay for i suppose!

rustyme

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Re: the veggie plot.
« Reply #160 on: March 07, 2008, 03:39:43 pm »
well guess what ? I was digging again today !!!! :o :o ??? yep... I kept looking at the very rough edges of the plot and along one side it was very curved, so I just had to straighten things up a bit . Still a bit more to do , but it is something that I can either do or just leave, so isn't such a weight on my mind  ;) I did pick out a huge heap of stone as well and did some other bits and bobs , not too bad weather wise either. It felt very much like a showery spring day today ....which is exactly what it was really  ???  I couldn't face carrying any stone up the hill or digging any gravel from the river for the shed , so had a really nice sit down and just watched all the birds getting ready for nesting for a while. I was watching an aerial dog fight for 10 minutes or so . A buzzard was attacking a red kite right above me. Their territories must overlap above my land as this is always happening . Really good to see so many kites about again now though .

Rosemary

  • Joined Oct 2007
  • Barry, Angus, Scotland
    • The Accidental Smallholder
Re: the veggie plot.
« Reply #161 on: March 07, 2008, 07:14:05 pm »
Hi, Russ

Do you work your horses? I broke Smokey to drive last year and I always kind of thought that if we had more land he could do a bit of light work, if I coudl get the equipment. He's bred for it, as a Highland pony.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   

rustyme

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Re: the veggie plot.
« Reply #162 on: March 07, 2008, 09:17:45 pm »
Hello Rosemary,
                  Josie is broken to ride ok and Welly ( the middle sized one ) has been sat on a few times, but other than that no . I have been collecting smalls bits of tack/working gear over the years, but it has been a slow process , as good stuff is so dear. You can get old stuff cheap but I found that most of it was so old and rotten it needed completely remaking. I have a horse plough now and enough gear to train them now so , as and when time allows, I shall get them into doing a bit of work for me.  There is a chap not far from me who is a champion horse ploughman . He trains horses to work with the plough , but once again it means lots of money about 400 pounds to do. So it would seem that it is down to me to try .... ;D Well done  with getting your one trained . He should be able to do plenty of work , they are very hardy , tough little lumps highland ponies...all the gear costs the earth though  ;)

Guy

  • Joined Feb 2008
  • East Devon
Re: the veggie plot.
« Reply #163 on: March 07, 2008, 11:27:42 pm »
You just cant leave your fork alone can you Russ?!! :D  - mind you although i am now a total convert of the "mantis" the fork is still always there - like a trusted friend , always happy to help in any weather or condition - plus its really handy for hanging my coat on!!!! i like the horse - i must admit i do miss having mine , but as you and stephen say i dont miss the feed bill , nor the farrier costs :o
relax and enjoy life - let others do the worrying

rustyme

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Re: the veggie plot.
« Reply #164 on: March 08, 2008, 12:59:44 am »
lol ..yep...all this digging, I must be a forking maniac :o :o :o ::)  I hang my coat on either the fork or spade too.  Food bills ....god they are a pain ...16 quid a week for a big round bale of haylage. That isn't too bad as it is equal to about 12-14  normal small hay bales , maybe even a bit more . Hopefully only another 6-8 weeks of feeding till the grass starts up again, maybe even less?  Thankfully I already have enough wormers for the horses, so thats another 45 quid I won't have to find . I don't shoe my horses , so that saves on that score . I trim their hooves myself , just give them a lick with the rasp now and then when needed.

 

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