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SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • Cornwall
  • Rarely short of an opinion but I mean well
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Re: NEW annual vet visit needed for slaughter of stock ... info?
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2023, 02:50:29 pm »
The pig licence for slaughter has asked if you have a quarterly vet certificate from very soon after we left Europe but it is a yes or no answer. Vets shouldn't give you medicines if they haven't visited your farm in the last months but for years many have, which again vets have been tightening up on.



As I am understanding it, the "yes/no" answer will need to be "yes" as from 1st Jan 2024.  But as ever, there is a lot of information out there, some of it contradictory... :/


Where have you seen that Sally?

I wish I could find it again!  I thought I'd come across it when I was filling in the eAml2 stuff for our piggies going off but haven't managed to find it again.  Will keep looking and will post here if I find it.
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SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
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Re: NEW annual vet visit needed for slaughter of stock ... info?
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2023, 03:02:48 pm »
Found something...


On this page (entitled "Veterinary attestation for exports of Products of Animal Origin to the EU : Q&A guidance for industry and vets"), item 2 reads

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2.  Previously farmers were able to self-declare that a veterinary visit has taken place; what has changed?

A temporary measure - farmer’s attestation - was put in place to maintain trade to the EU. However, farmer self-attestation does not comply with RCVS requirements for certification. Therefore, in 2022, it was agreed that farmer attestations could only be used as evidence of compliance until 13 December 2023. From this date, evidence of the veterinary visits needs to be passed from the veterinarian on farm to the certifying OV at the end of the food chain.

If - and it's a big IF - your abattoir does not enable any of its outputs (including things like skin, blood, etc) to enter the EU, sufficiently robustly for the purposes of the Northern Ireland Protocol, then the Vet Attestation will not be required.  (And I think that all materials leaving the abattoir will be stamped "NOT FOR EU" so that they can't arrive there by any circuitous route).  We will find out what our local abattoir is planning on this front, but will do so once the busy Christmas / New Year period is behind us and they're a little less maxed out. 
Don't listen to the money men - they know the price of everything and the value of nothing

Live in a cohousing community with small farm for our own use.  Dairy cows (rearing their own calves for beef), pigs, sheep for meat and fleece, ducks and hens for eggs, veg and fruit growing

Womble

  • Joined Mar 2009
  • Stirlingshire, Central Scotland
Re: NEW annual vet visit needed for slaughter of stock ... info?
« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2023, 05:49:38 pm »
I think that all materials leaving the abattoir will be stamped "NOT FOR EU" so that they can't arrive there by any circuitous route.

Yep. It's started:
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Maysie

  • Joined Jan 2018
  • Herefordshire/Shropshire Border
Re: NEW annual vet visit needed for slaughter of stock ... info?
« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2023, 03:32:55 pm »
My apologies if I am being a bit dim, but does this apply to ALL livestock due to go for slaughter and into the food chain, ie cattle, pigs and sheep? 

If so, it has completely passed me by - so have I missed some form of notification? 
And if so, from who?   

I think I have answered my own question - it is ALL livestock.  Extract below from Sheep Vet Society:

To Livestock Producers,
From the 13 December 2023 all livestock farmers who produce livestock or livestock products that end up in the food chain and which may be exported to the European Union will require proof of an annual vet visit. The vet visit will review the farm and all its livestock species for signs of notifiable diseases and biosecurity risks. Our livestock industry has high volumes of EU trade of both fresh meat and other livestock produce (like 5th quarter), so we are working to support industry in meeting these criteria. Defra is supporting the veterinary profession in the smooth implementation of this measure.
Defra have worked with industry and can confirm that farms in certain farm assurance schemes don’t need to do anything new. Being part of these schemes gives assurance of at least an annual vet visit. The current qualifying farm assurance schemes are:

Red Tractor
Quality Meat Scotland (QMS)
Farm Assured Welsh Livestock Beef and Lamb Scheme (FAWL) / Welsh Lamb and Beef Producers Ltd (WLBP)
Lion Quality
Poultry Health Scheme
If you are not part of the above farm assurance schemes, please read the below for what you need to do.

What does this mean for me?
Vet Attestation visits should be combined with other routine vet visits wherever possible, so long as all livestock species on the farm are considered and the vet can assess the bio-security risk in relation to notifiable disease. They will provide you with a visit receipt, showing that they have been there. You should both keep a copy of that receipt.

The vet will also give you a ‘Vet Attestation Number’ – known as a ‘VAN’ – that is valid for a year from date of visit. If your vet has been out to your farm within the past year and feels content their visit also covered the scope described above, you can ask them to create a VAN for your reference and share that with you. You will need to write this VAN on your Food Chain Information (FCI) document when you sell livestock destined for slaughter through a livestock market or to an abattoir.

If your farm has received or is due to receive a Defra funded visit under the Defra Animal Health and Welfare Review Pathway scheme, part of the visit will include the vet giving you a VAN number, which you will need to record on the FCI document.

We are updating the paper forms and creating some new IT options for the VAN to be recorded. For pig keepers we are building functionality into eAML2 so that you can add this VAN digitally. We will share further communications on these details in the months ahead.

If you’re not part of an assurance scheme listed above or have had or are about to have a visit under the Defra Animal Health and Welfare Pathway Scheme, speak to your vet to either: a) request a VAN backdated from your farm visit in the last year that you can write on your FCI document, or b) arrange a visit for your vet to provide this service and VAN so your livestock and products derived from your livestock can be exported after 13 December 2023.
Contact your local livestock market or abattoir – they can advise you.
« Last Edit: October 16, 2023, 03:51:49 pm by Maysie »

harmony

  • Joined Feb 2012
Re: NEW annual vet visit needed for slaughter of stock ... info?
« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2023, 08:25:47 am »
Found something...


On this page (entitled "Veterinary attestation for exports of Products of Animal Origin to the EU : Q&A guidance for industry and vets"), item 2 reads

Quote
2.  Previously farmers were able to self-declare that a veterinary visit has taken place; what has changed?

A temporary measure - farmer’s attestation - was put in place to maintain trade to the EU. However, farmer self-attestation does not comply with RCVS requirements for certification. Therefore, in 2022, it was agreed that farmer attestations could only be used as evidence of compliance until 13 December 2023. From this date, evidence of the veterinary visits needs to be passed from the veterinarian on farm to the certifying OV at the end of the food chain.

If - and it's a big IF - your abattoir does not enable any of its outputs (including things like skin, blood, etc) to enter the EU, sufficiently robustly for the purposes of the Northern Ireland Protocol, then the Vet Attestation will not be required.  (And I think that all materials leaving the abattoir will be stamped "NOT FOR EU" so that they can't arrive there by any circuitous route).  We will find out what our local abattoir is planning on this front, but will do so once the busy Christmas / New Year period is behind us and they're a little less maxed out.


So, maybe the quarterly vets visit question will be removed because we will all require vets attestation. Currently, I can't see anything that says we will need a quarterly vets report only that we will need the annual visit.

 

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