[princesspiggy]

what do u think about animal charities that raise money to feed commercial breeds? a place we visited last year had quite a few abused horses and cats etc, which was really sad, then a few rabbits which is nice for kids to look at that. then in the barn it had commercial xbreeds of sheep, some ex-pets, some young, some elderly but all there "for rest of natural life". i personally (now u  may disagree) thought that this was so bizarre. the place in question (no names ) have been in severe financial trouble for long time. why would you fundraise to feed commercial sheep when they could be killed for meat? and that feed could have gone to feed other needy animals? if they were rare or exceptional breeding animals that would be different. there was also a tamworth which from which i could gather had no real purpose. im sure his breeder intended him to slaughtered by 1 year. and they arent cheap to feed. what do u think?

[robert waddell]

some strange folk out there the whole point of animals is to eat or work (if you cant keep one eat one) but then i might be strange and get it in the neck for this

[RUSTYME]

WARNING !!!!!

 apply barrier cream liberally all over ...

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cheers

Russ

[princesspiggy]

i know but interesting conversation

[robert waddell]

your fault princesspiggy

[princesspiggy]

i actually heard the intake of breath after i posted it. bin thinking bout it for a year, just wondered what others thought.

[robert waddell]

well you got my view

[Rosemary]

the whole point of animals is to eat or work (if you cant keep one eat one)

I don't entirely subscribe to this - we have 2 pet dogs and three cats, one of who doesn't leave the house (the other two are great mousers but we'd keep them even if they never caught another rodent), and two ponies that might doa bit of work next year, but that are really kept for our pleasure - but farm livestock has to earn its living, even if we don't expect as much as a commercial farmer would have to.

[robert waddell]

well we have two cats never out the house(they would get killed on the road have lost a huge amount to spading motors) and five dogs not one working yet collies  a black Shetland pony good bloodlines rosemary has taken the words out of context with the posting

[princesspiggy]

what about people that keep commercial hybrids as pets, where parents are different purebreds and all offspring are destined for meat. so in reality there should never be any elderly hybrids as none are for breeding and all will be killed in first year. a friend of a friend, has a hybrid pig, that literally fell off back of lorry, is completely huge pet, but i wondered what health problems it might have with legs carrying all that weight as its breeder never intended it to live a long or healthy life.

[princesspiggy]

well its against law to eat cats dogs or horses in uk. so they need care for rest of there life - responsibility shared between breeder and owner. just fundraising for a charity (and i did donate for few years before visiting) to find the money goes on sheep - not rare breeds either - but some wifey that had pet lamb then changed mind and gave it to sanctuary, that should really be in food chain. maybe feeding underprivileged kids!! or even the abused cats?   just my view

[robert waddell]

never knew that  some butchers used to sell cats as rabbits that was after the war German sausage is horse is it not and dogs well there used to be Asian restaurants that used dog  i think it is taking it to far that breeders  are responsible  after selling

[princesspiggy]

i dont know about importing, but sure u cant kill them here? i mite be talking rubbish. i breed ponies and i would (somewhat romantically) like to think that i would be able to advise or assist if any came upon hard times. as i brought it into world anyway. but i also had a duty to that animal that it was bred properly in first place to be sound in body and mind enough to live a useful life. is there any reason we dont eat carnivores in uk?

[Hilarysmum]

I think I have to stand on the fence on this one ,   I couldnt eat Digby

[princesspiggy]

i couldnt eat bobby, but im not reg charity asking for donations. totally for rare breed projects etc and places that have work placements for disabled etc. there was prison project in australia getting inmates to train wild brumby horses to rehome. was really successful apparently with cutting numbers of re-offenders.