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twizzel

  • Joined Apr 2012
Re: Tup double tapping ewes
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2022, 12:20:26 pm »
Normally when sheís been tupped twice, itís on 2 cycles, 17 days apart. So sheís not held the first service, so returned again. If all your ewes do this, you have a problem with the ram. She wonít stand for a ram if sheís in lamb already.


Some people use different coloured raddles to see which ram has mated each ewe.



Though if youíre not bothered whether your ewes get in lamb or not, thereís no real need to raddle the ram.

Mamohau

  • Joined Jan 2022
Re: Tup double tapping ewes
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2022, 12:28:03 pm »
aha, thank you very much!  I must have known the 17 days then, just forgotten for the moment!  I'm a bit absent-minded.

SavageU

  • Joined May 2023
Re: Tup double tapping ewes
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2024, 09:44:32 pm »
Thinking about my own tupping errors.

If Input my ram in say 1st Sept.

Allow 2 weeks as a teaser, introducing himself. DonI guesstimate him serving them twice (or some on one date the others 17 days later if he missed 1st cycle).

Iím panicking a bit about lambing dates and if this is roughly the case, that would be helpful.

SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • Cornwall
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Re: Tup double tapping ewes
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2024, 10:08:34 am »
Personally I'd assume all ewes tupped between 1st and 18th Sept.  You might get a few or even most go into second cycle, but you don't want to be not watching (nor not have passive immunity established if you vaccinate) earlier.
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Rosemary

  • Joined Oct 2007
  • Barry, Angus, Scotland
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Re: Tup double tapping ewes
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2024, 05:49:20 pm »
Thinking about my own tupping errors.

If Input my ram in say 1st Sept.

Allow 2 weeks as a teaser, introducing himself. DonI guesstimate him serving them twice (or some on one date the others 17 days later if he missed 1st cycle).

Iím panicking a bit about lambing dates and if this is roughly the case, that would be helpful.
You can't use an entire tup as a "teaser" by putting him in the same field. There's no courting no introductions. If the ewe's inseason, he'll serve her.
A teaser is a vasectomised ram - all the smell and instrincts, just no sperm. He's not a "remarkably civilised ram".

We used to "tease" our Ryelands by putting the tup in the field NEXT TO THEM for a couple of weeks. You can do that with Ryelands because they're not the most agile of sheep.

twizzel

  • Joined Apr 2012
Re: Tup double tapping ewes
« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2024, 06:14:05 pm »
An entire ram will act as a teaser though for any ewes not naturally cycling when he goes in, so whilst you may get a few tupped that are cycling, if any arenít, he should bring them into season within a fortnight of being introduced with them. Next year use raddle, it makes life so much easier knowing who to watch and when! On previous years when I havenít used a teaser and have put the ram in early (mid September) the first fortnight had a few ewes tupped and the second fortnight they really got going. Now I use a teaser and put him in mid September; the rams go straight to work as soon as they go in with the ewes on October 1st. 


I would be ready for lambs as if they were served when the ram was introduced on sept 1st, but I expect they may have a quiet fortnight and then kick off a couple of weeks in.


FWIW my teaser ram still thinks heís the real deal, he will ďtupĒ anything that comes into season when heís in with them, but he isnít firing anything.

 

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