[MTW]

Hi, we are hoping to buy a house with 18 acres, it hasn’t got an agricultural tie. An old lady lives there and a local farmer keeps there sheep on the land. We want to buy it and keep 2 horses for personal use only. There are out building and wanted to make them into stables and feed room. We will probably leave the farmers sheep on the land and make some hay. It seems a little grey about keeping horses on agricultural land - also converting into stables. If you could give me guidance that would be great. Thanks Mx

[SallyintNorth]

Which country?

[honeyend]

I would be more worried that an agricultural tie means you are supposed to make you living in agriculture, which makes the property cheaper as the pool of people allowed to live there is smaller. Depending on the area you may get the tie taken off, our neighbours live in a previously tied house.  It all depends on really how keen the local authority are to enforce the tie.

[landroverroy]

I would be more worried that an agricultural tie means you are supposed to make you living in agriculture, which makes the property cheaper as the pool of people allowed to live there is smaller. Depending on the area you may get the tie taken off, our neighbours live in a previously tied house.  It all depends on really how keen the local authority are to enforce the tie.

I believe the post says there isn't an agricultural tie.

[landroverroy]

As far as 2 horses for your own use are concerned, there shouldn't be a problem.
Grazing horses is, for planning purposes, classed as agricultural. For that reason, there also shouldn't be a problem with using the outbuldings to house them. The fact that you are planning on making hay - presumably to feed them with makes your plans totally feasible and allowed


Where horses do become a planning issue is where you may have a livery, and the use of land is then a business, which is not basically agricultural,  and you would then technically have to apply for change of use. You would also need planning for a manege.


As far as planning is concerned, there are actually 6 different categories for the keeping  of horses. many planners do not know them all and I have stated the simplest ones. But when I said "technically" you will often find that a few horses on land, even rented out to others, for example is not normally flagged up.


What does get noted is the erection (without planning) of a big new stable block, tack room, static caravan for rest room, and maybe a manege. That shouts out "business use" and would require a change of use. Your  plans to make hay, presumably to feed them with, further reinforces the agricultural nature of your horses.

[arobwk]

Which country?

Obviously MTW is a bit busy right now and unable to find time to get back to the matter that concerns them more than it should concern the rest of us !

[SallyintNorth]

Which country?

Obviously MTW is a bit busy right now and unable to find time to get back to the matter that concerns them more than it should concern the rest of us !

It is relevant because the rules will be different in each country.  Pointless me answering for England if the OP is in Scotland, f'r'instance.

[arobwk]

Which country?

Obviously MTW is a bit busy right now and unable to find time to get back to the matter that concerns them more than it should concern the rest of us !

"Play nice" - not everyone has time, ability or inclination to be online 24/7 - maybe they're tied up with livestock issues or their broadband is down... or maybe they're working!  I'm sure they'll respond if and when the time is right for them.

OK,  you're right.  I should maybe have waited a bit longer.  (Too many peop's, however, buzz-by with nary an acknowledgement or a thank you for members taking the time to consider their query, especially if they - the buzz-by members - don't like the answers !)

[philcaegrug]

regarding a menage we applied for a winter turnout area which happens to be 40metres by 20 metres and had no problem. we,ve even put letters up so we know what area the horses are in.

[arobwk]

Which country?

Obviously MTW is a bit busy right now and unable to find time to get back to the matter that concerns them more than it should concern the rest of us !

"Play nice" - not everyone has time, ability or inclination to be online 24/7 - maybe they're tied up with livestock issues or their broadband is down... or maybe they're working!  I'm sure they'll respond if and when the time is right for them.

OK,  you're right.  I should maybe have waited a bit longer.  (Too many peop's, however, buzz-by with nary an acknowledgement or a thank you for members taking the time to consider their query, especially if they - the buzz-by members - don't like the answers !)

Seems I was right after-all - MTW has buzzed-by with nary a "thank you for your comments".