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macgro7

  • Joined Feb 2016
Government giving land to tenant farmers
« on: November 06, 2020, 07:48:48 am »
In 1940s the Polish government ordered that all estates larger than 50 hectares (in somer regions larges) would be divided between the tennants who live on the land and given to them in freehold. Imagine if they did that in the UK? With scottish landlords especially (but English too of course) owning thousands of acres and multiple eatates!
« Last Edit: November 06, 2020, 07:56:42 am by macgro7 »
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Perris

  • Joined Mar 2017
  • Gower
Re: Government giving land to tenant farmers
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2020, 07:53:04 am »
If that were so, how come there are still large historic estates?
What is the source you used?

Rosemary

  • Joined Oct 2007
  • Barry, Angus, Scotland
    • The Accidental Smallholder
Re: Government giving land to tenant farmers
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2020, 07:55:48 am »
Are you sure about that? If that was the case, how is there so many large family owned estates around now?

Certainly after both wars, when many estates were crippled by death duties, the government BOUGHT, or took in payment for death duties, land and split it up into rented smallholdings for returning ex-servicemen. Sadly they didn't bother to offer much in the way of support and training and many gave up. Most are now just houses, with the land amalgamated into bigger holdings

All over Scotland there are these "holdings"; one at Tealing, near Dundee; one just outside Perth; Sauchieburn, just outside Stirling; Greenhill, at Kilmarnock.

macgro7

  • Joined Feb 2016
Re: Government giving land to tenant farmers
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2020, 07:55:58 am »
Sorry I was meant to say that was in 1940s Poland.

If that were so, how come there are still large historic estates?
What is the source you used?
There isn't any large historic estates in Poland. There are castles and palaces but the farmland was divided. Obviously in most recent times some rich farmers bought out the land around them and now own large farms just like in the UK and other parts of western Europe.
The only large estates left during communist Poland were government owned farms.
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Rosemary

  • Joined Oct 2007
  • Barry, Angus, Scotland
    • The Accidental Smallholder
Re: Government giving land to tenant farmers
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2020, 07:57:54 am »
There isn't any large historic estates in Poland.
The only large estates left during communist Poland were government owned farms.
You weren't clear in your OP that you were talking about Poland. Aye, and communism wasn't such a great success.

macgro7

  • Joined Feb 2016
Re: Government giving land to tenant farmers
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2020, 07:59:17 am »
There isn't any large historic estates in Poland.
The only large estates left during communist Poland were government owned farms.
You weren't clear in your OP that you were talking about Poland. Aye, and communism wasn't such a great success.
Sorry, I edited the first post to make sure its included  ::)
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Mad Goatwoman of Madeley

  • Joined Sep 2011
  • Telford
Re: Government giving land to tenant farmers
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2020, 11:34:42 pm »
My son and DIL bought a property in France where there was a lot of arguing about the price. Apparently, when the parent dies the children inherit the property between them and all have to agree a price with the vendor. In this case there were four siblings and it took a while to get a price that all parties agreed with. Sometimes properties are left to crumble while siblings argue about how much to sell it for.


Son and SIL actually now own a fourth of a chateau as, at some point, it was divided into four properties. The cellars are much older than the building now there and the turrets were removed years ago as they were unsafe and were used to build barns.

macgro7

  • Joined Feb 2016
Re: Government giving land to tenant farmers
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2020, 01:50:04 pm »
My son and DIL bought a property in France where there was a lot of arguing about the price. Apparently, when the parent dies the children inherit the property between them and all have to agree a price with the vendor. In this case there were four siblings and it took a while to get a price that all parties agreed with. Sometimes properties are left to crumble while siblings argue about how much to sell it for.
Same old...
Everywhere in the world the same thing happening. My grandfather moved out to the city and CHANGED HIS SURNAME after inheritance dispute with his brothers! Since then we all have new name  :thinking:
Growing loads of fruits and vegetables! Raising dairy goats, chickens, ducks, geese rabbits and a little boy on 1/2 acre in the middle of the city of Leicester, using permaculture methods.

 

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