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Q

  • Joined Apr 2013
"Playful" Doberman
« on: September 25, 2018, 12:07:37 pm »
apologies if this is a bit long..
While riding my bike across the park a young doberman came bounding toward me. It was all legs and bounce so I wasnt too concerned and I just veered off my course to avoid it.  It came up to my leg and lunged at my calf. I felt its teeth scrape against my calf and it slobbered down my leg. I was a bit more concerned then and turned sharply to avoid a second go.  It came around the other side of me and did the same with the other leg not breaking skin or anything. I stopped and shouted to the owner to control the dog as it was biting me- he was some way away.
By now the dog was happy that the chase was over and ran off with its owner chasing it.
This then ended up with a nasty argument with 3 of his dog owner friends who chipped in saying it was only licking me etc etc - I realise this deflected me from speaking further with the actual dog owner - who had now chased his dog some 2-300 yards away.
My question is - how seriously should I treat this - no real harm done but potentially a problem if I (or a child) had been knocked off my bike etc etc
The other dog owners infuriated me in their defence of their mate but I dont want this to detract from what action I should take about the dog.
or.. I could have just wasted two minutes of your reading time as well.
 
If you cant beat 'em then at least bugger 'em about a bit. :innocent:
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bj_cardiff

  • Joined Feb 2017
  • Carmarthenshire
Re: "Playful" Doberman
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2018, 12:18:24 pm »
Its all about your perception I think. I have a dog that mouths a lot and it doesn't bother me, I wouldn't put him in a situation where his playfulness could be misinterpreted as anything else..

The owner has acted really badly in my opinion. People are scared of dogs and if an owner was unable to recall his dog from someone who didn't want to interact with the dog then the dog should not be off the lead.. The other people getting involved would of really pished me off too..

Q

  • Joined Apr 2013
Re: "Playful" Doberman
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2018, 12:25:22 pm »
Totally agree BJ_Cardiff - the dog knows no better and needs control before it is let off the leash. I would like to talk to the owner without the other three clowns because I feel I could have had a reasonable conversation with him especially as I wasnt hurt in anyway (and the dog was a beauty).
Sadly the three clowns were there without the doberman owner last night but funnily enough declined to repeat any of what they said last time because I was filming it.
If you cant beat 'em then at least bugger 'em about a bit. :innocent:

SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • Cornwall
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Re: "Playful" Doberman
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2018, 01:19:35 pm »
Totally agree with Beej. You might also feel moved to offer to help the owner with some training so the dog learns to either ignore bikes and or gets a better recall?
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Scarlet.Dragon

  • Joined May 2015
  • Aberdeenshire
Re: "Playful" Doberman
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2018, 05:52:19 pm »
The dog was out of control in a public area which is an offence.

The fact that you weren't hurt is irrelevant, you were forced to take evasive action and had it been someone who hadn't seen it coming, or a child, that could have been a nasty accident for both the cyclist and the dog.  Not necessarily in terms of being bitten but just in terms of legs and spokes getting interwoven!

If you can find the owner to have a sensible conversation then it's a good idea, and I like SallyintNorth's suggestion of you helping to desensitise the dog if you feel inclined to do so... I remember cycling round our garden with dogs that were reactive to bikes to get them to ignore them.

The other individuals shouldn't have involved themselves and you were daft to get drawn into an argument.  Potentially that could have been a breach of the peace depending on how heated it got which would be a separate offence.

You're within your rights to report the incident to the police/dog warden in the area - but that's a conscious choice you need to make.  You could do it in such a way that it is seen as supportive - if you can't trace the owner and want to offer the desensitisation assistance for example then by reporting it the dog warden may be able to trace the owner and make the offer on your behalf. 

Ask yourself how you'll feel if tomorrow you read that the same thing happened to a kid in the same area and they're now in plaster or concussed?  It may help guide your next course of action.

As an aside, if this is a public park where kids play, are dogs allowed to be there?  I know we've had several incidents recently in the kids play park where a couple of dogs have been out of control and kids have been bitten.  The signs clearly state no dogs allowed.  There's also an issue of dog muck on the playing fields - this is a major issue from my perspective but others seem to just accept it's how owners behave.

Good luck whatever you decide.  I hope the dog gets the training it needs to mature into a sociable adult.
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Q

  • Joined Apr 2013
Re: "Playful" Doberman
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2018, 06:42:06 pm »
Thank you scarlet.dragon very well put.
I would be happy to chat with the owner and help with the dog - just as I feel now happy to make a sensible peace with the other 3 because we are bound to bump into each other from time to time. Life's too short etc etc
If you cant beat 'em then at least bugger 'em about a bit. :innocent:

doganjo

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Re: "Playful" Doberman
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2018, 07:29:51 pm »
Completely agrre with everyone.  Dog is out of control.  I too have an old boy who has always been 'mouthy' - he is the sweetest, gentlest dog in the world, but it could frighten people who don't know him. So he doesn't get to run at people in that way.  He is at heel walking quietly beside me if we meet anyone and if they want to talk to him - as they nearly always do because he is so handsome  :eyelashes: - he is given the word 'gentle' and he then just laughs but doesn't mouth people.
It is up to you how you deal with the matter but I would agree that it might be best to talk to the owner quietly if you can get him on his own - and dismount from your bike well before the dog arrives so you aren't running the risk of beimg knocked over
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