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Author Topic: looking for advice on how to choose a plough  (Read 495 times)

Justin

  • Joined Jun 2012
  • Devon
looking for advice on how to choose a plough
« on: September 14, 2018, 12:01:35 pm »
As we progress in our little smallholding journey, we're now looking at turning some of a field into crop rotation. Some will be just to grow things like bee friendly flowers, some will be fodder crops for pigs/sheep and some will be to grow larger amounts of vegetables that won't fit in the allotment.

We have an old Massey 135 tractor which I use for topping, wood chipping, moving stuff around etc and I'm thinking that having a small plough to turn over strips of field occasionally would be useful. However, I have never done anything like that before and don't really know what sort of plough the masssey would be able to pull or if there are different types. I'm not going to be ploughing entire fields, just strips now and then.

Could anyone tell me what I'd need to look for please.
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shep53

  • Joined Jan 2011
  • Argyll
Re: looking for advice on how to choose a plough
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2018, 12:32:35 pm »
Have a look on ebay   ( 2 furrow plough )   quite a few for sale and will be videos on you tube  .  If you can get a friendly  older farmer /farmworker  to help examine  it for missing  /bent bits it would be ideal then he /she could set it up for you

Justin

  • Joined Jun 2012
  • Devon
Re: looking for advice on how to choose a plough
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2018, 05:21:11 pm »
thank you, I'll do that.

Rupert the bear

  • Joined Jun 2015
Re: looking for advice on how to choose a plough
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2018, 07:49:19 pm »
Have a look on ebay   ( 2 furrow plough )   quite a few for sale and will be videos on you tube  .  If you can get a friendly  older farmer /farmworker  to help examine  it for missing  /bent bits it would be ideal then he /she could set it up for you

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I have used the services of retired farm workers / tractor enthusiasts for ploughing and reseeding help , instruction and advice, look for a tractor owners group . They may even know of a suitable pluogh.
Only one problem I must warn you of ,         you may have to fight them off your tractor ! Oh and sometimes they hang about out of sight waiting for you to go in for your tea and finish off a field for you.  :)

arobwk

  • Joined Nov 2015
  • Kernow - some say it's in England
Re: looking for advice on how to choose a plough
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2018, 09:25:15 pm »
Does your Massey 135 have draft control? (I don't know spec's of M135s).  If not, a depth control wheel on plough would be a good thing.
Also thinking that, for the odd bit of plot ploughing, a basic single-furrow plough shouldn't be sniffed at if the price is right.

I've been re-considering recently whether I need a small plough (or not) for much the same purpose as you Justin.  Undecided, but I've been looking.  Quite a few used single/2-furrow ploughs available (web searches), but not available anywhere near my neck of the woods.  So I've looked at new offerings:  I cannot vouch for, but machinerysales EU offerings (single or 2-furrow versions) are a very decent price and, from my untrained eye, probably quite good enough for most "small-holder" needs.  (They could well be better than that, but I wouldn't know - what I do know is that I wouldn't want to pay more - new or used - for something I wouldn't use very often.)
« Last Edit: September 15, 2018, 10:07:02 pm by arobwk »

honeyend

  • Joined Oct 2011
Re: looking for advice on how to choose a plough
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2018, 12:02:08 am »
More farmers are going onto no till, do you really need a plough?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-till_farming

pgkevet

  • Joined Jul 2011
Re: looking for advice on how to choose a plough
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2018, 07:43:49 am »
I have a 2 furrow plough.. not reversible so I have to keep driving back to the start for the next row. It's also more a case of picking the right time when soil it the best texture to be turned (too dry, too wet). it still needs rotorvating afterwards. If the same ground is going to be worked in subsequent years then after the initial loosening of an old neglected field then probably just the rotorvator would do.

Scotsdumpy

  • Joined Jul 2012
Re: looking for advice on how to choose a plough
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2018, 08:33:46 am »
Take yourself to a vintage tractor ploughing match - you'll see examples of many set ups and you might be able to see what you need. Failing that - youtube is a great resource for all things vintage tractors. You might work out that it's cheaper and quicker to get someone in to do it for you. Ploughing,  like haymaking, is a bit of a dark art!!

pgkevet

  • Joined Jul 2011
Re: looking for advice on how to choose a plough
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2018, 09:43:43 am »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKK-fD1wuoU
Above is the kit you want  ;D Note that it's not even leaving furrows.. 'cos the field is so well maintained and the soil nice and crumbly but an excellent job of 'burying the trash'. You won't do that your first year!

landroverroy

  • Joined Oct 2010
Re: looking for advice on how to choose a plough
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2018, 06:00:39 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKK-fD1wuoU
Above is the kit you want  ;D Note that it's not even leaving furrows.. 'cos the field is so well maintained and the soil nice and crumbly but an excellent job of 'burying the trash'. You won't do that your first year!


Oh yes! I can definitely see that pulled by an MF 135, :innocent: :roflanim:
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Rupert the bear

  • Joined Jun 2015
Re: looking for advice on how to choose a plough
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2018, 08:07:19 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKK-fD1wuoU
Above is the kit you want  ;D Note that it's not even leaving furrows.. 'cos the field is so well maintained and the soil nice and crumbly but an excellent job of 'burying the trash'. You won't do that your first year!


Oh yes! I can definitely see that pulled by an MF 135, :innocent: :roflanim:

It's not so much as how big it is ,but how you use it, looking at the video its been set very high,all down to the soil condition as LRR says

pgkevet

  • Joined Jul 2011
Re: looking for advice on how to choose a plough
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2018, 10:57:53 am »
My tractor is pnly 43HP too.. and with small front wheels to permit the loader.. well pick a day when the soil's heavy and the front wheels do the ploughing...

Justin

  • Joined Jun 2012
  • Devon
Re: looking for advice on how to choose a plough
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2018, 12:02:13 pm »
We looked at no-till and do no-dig in our allotment but for the heavy clay ground we have, you really need to turn over the turf to have much chance of planting anything new, it's been rough pasture for decades.

The massey has draft control so a simple 2 blade plough sounds ideal.

I can ask my neighbour to plough for me at the moment but he's 70 and just had cancer surgery so I'm helping him on his farm and I'm aware that eventually I'll need to be able to do this sort of stuff for myself if we're going to carry on being self-sufficient-ish. The amount we'd want doing doesn't really warrant having a contractor come in. Same as we're going to get a disc cutter and haybob to be able to cut our own hay when we start having our own sheep.

 

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