Author Topic: A feeding grain question  (Read 5557 times)

lesleysprite

  • Joined Mar 2010
  • Fife
A feeding grain question
« on: March 29, 2010, 09:33:00 am »
Hi all,
I am just about to get some chickens. One of my books said that a good grain to use as a treat on top of a standard mix is wheat. So I bought some wheat from a health food shop when I happened to see some. My question is -I don't know if I can feed it to them as it is, or if it needs to be cooked or what... The grains are smooth and hard and look a bit like the barley I would boil up in soup. May be this is a silly question -its just I know if I ate them as they are they would swell up and give me a sore stomach. Any advice please! Thanks
Lesley

jameslindsay

  • Joined Feb 2009
  • Nr St Andrews, Fife
  • "Blossom" one of my Pygmy Goats
Re: A feeding grain question
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2010, 09:35:24 am »
Hi Lesley, they will love the wheat - just as it is. I think this should only be given as a treat however as it can cause them to lay less. I am sure some one will correct me if this is wrong. You will find out soon enough that they will eat anything, I hope you enjoy the experience.

doganjo

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Clackmannanshire
  • Qui? Moi?
Re: A feeding grain question
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2010, 09:39:40 am »
James is right to an extent.  Layers pellets have nutrients in them that encourage laying, but mixed grain or other grains don't.  So if you feed pellets only all the time you get a good yield, but the birds become burnt out. I prefer to give mine a longer and happier life by feeding a mixture of 60/40 pellets and mixed grains, with fresh veg scraps and bread/buns occasionally too.
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Rosemary

  • Joined Oct 2007
  • Barry, Angus, Scotland
    • The Accidental Smallholder
Re: A feeding grain question
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2010, 11:33:42 am »
Mine get adlib pellets and mixed corn (wheat and maize) just before bedtime. Plus what they forage, of course. And the odd treat.

shetlandpaul

  • Joined Oct 2008
Re: A feeding grain question
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2010, 11:41:46 am »
ours love there maize. and you do see it in the egg colour. and the culled birds have a nice yellow colour.

Daveravey

  • Joined Jul 2009
  • Fife
Re: A feeding grain question
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2010, 12:32:51 pm »
Our girls are fed mixed grains in the afternoon as well as greens & growers pellets in the morning.

In fact, i'm gonna plant some of the grains in the next few days to see if they germinate...... free food  :yum:

RUSTYME

  • Joined Oct 2009
Re: A feeding grain question
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2010, 01:04:23 pm »
there is absolutely nothing in layers pellets that you can't provide for your birds with other foods. Layers pellets are just a convenient all in type of feed really . The feed suppliers will tell you that you NEED to use their pellets for best performance etc , but if you were to give your birds a varied diet made up of grains and veg and allowed them free range , they would be getting everything you get in layers pellets , without the chemicals etc that are usually dumped in ready made feed.
 You can use a rough guide of 1 square yard of grain sown , wheat , barley , oats or rye , will give you approx 1/2 - 1 lb of grain at harvest . So if you need 56 lb of grain , sow 56+ sq yds of grain . If you are going to try to grow any grains such as wheat , barley , oats or rye now , you would have to make sure they are spring sown types now . If they were winter sown types, then they most likely wouldn't head up , ie they wouldn't make any seed heads . So all you would get is long grass !!! Winter sown types need the winter weather , frosts etc, to stimulate them into forming the seed. Plus some need the much longer time period as well.
 Spring sown grain will harvest in a much shorter period, but you may not get such a big crop at harvest .   
Maize/sweet corn is different , and some people have difficulty growing it , but you can do it if you want it , just sow in as large a block as possible . You can also grow comfrey to cut and feed to your birds , (this is high in protein 20-22%) , plus any waste veg .
 All of this depends on how much space you have and how much work you want to put into growing food for your birds/livestock.
 But by growing your own feed , YOU are in control of what your stock eats , and therefor what YOU eat .
 Hope that helps in some way ...

cheers

Russ
 

harry

  • Joined Mar 2009
Re: A feeding grain question
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2010, 05:52:52 pm »
GRAIN FROM A HEALTH FOOD SHOP ££££££££££££££££££S how ever much was that, i can tell you its about £4.50 for straight wheat, or barley, and £6 for maize (sweetcorn) or mixed corn thats 25klo bag. thats in my area anyway. i think all grain just puts on fat mainly. But i feed mixed corn to my ducks as i can chuck it in the water so rats etc dont eat it. For turkeys and geese its recommended to not feed pellets (dont know why)but feed geese wheat, barley and sunflower seeds, turkeys its wheat, barley, oats, field beans and sunflower seeds, the sunflower seeds are for calcium, eggs etc.. i have noticed my geese fed with sunflower seeds the egg shells are rock hard.

Castle Farm

  • Joined Nov 2008
  • Hereford/Powys Border. near Hay-on-Wye
    • castlefarmeggs
Re: A feeding grain question
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2010, 09:22:59 pm »
Hello Lesley.
I never feed any pellets (except chick crumbs up tp feathering up).I totally agree with Russ.Pellets are made for birds that spend there lives in deep litter or commercial caged systems and in my opinion do more harm than good fed to 'pet birds'.

I have a bit of grain feeding on my web page if your interested in a natural diet that has been keeping birds alive for years before pellets came onto the market.
Millions of chickens all over the world wouldn't know what a pellet looked like and they still enjoy life.
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northfifeduckling

  • Joined Jan 2009
  • Fife
    • North Fife Blog
Re: A feeding grain question
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2010, 04:20:05 pm »
I regulate pellets to a small amount daily and give wheat ad lib. At the start I had one egg a week without pellets from 10 birds, that was not really worth keeping them, natural feed or not... When I introduced  them to as many GM free pellets as they wanted as it was recommended to me some of my ducks got egg bound, so I reduced them to a small ration daily. Mixed grain is good for hens as well but more expensive than wheat. Occasionally they get malt from a home brewer and they like that although they won't touch grain barley. I get my grain from a local farmer now which is far cheaper than a feed merchant or pet store. It's worth asking around! You learn while you go along and the compromise we found is best for us and my birds.  :&>

 

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