[shetlandpaul]

you don't need to take them just descibe the symptoms. and they should give you the stuff you drench them with it a few times i can't remember the number of times its been a while since Ive used it. if its pinky then you definitely do have a gut infection.

[spencers mum]

shetlandpaul you don't happen to know if they've ruined infected my veggie patch too?  Common sense says to me that all birds, wild and domesticated have access to where farmers/smallholders grow and therefore I should be ok but I don't want to take chances with what we will ultimately eat?

[shetlandpaul]

its only a chuck problem. its common in the enviroment and its not usually a big problem. what did they claim that they had been vaccinated for. if from a small holding then thats quite unusal. if from a big hatchery then yours is the first chance that they have had to pick up bugs.

[Hermit]

Sorry been too busy to catch up, but you can get Flubenvet from vets or cheap over the internet. The company I deal with do 1% in 60gm or 2.5% in 240 gm. You can eat the eggs yourself for both but the 2.5% treated eggs cannot be sold while under treatment according to the company.

[spencers mum]

Thanks for these replies.  I shall get some flubenvent and keep for next worming. Leaflet says 'fully vaccinated' and I didn't ask anymore?? Mmmmm...... next time.  They came from a smallholding who got them from a hatchery who is "a reliable source that I always use" I don't know now though...... took him a week to turn up (which he finally did yesterday) with 5 days worth of Tylan which is now in their water for day 1.  Also off to vet re: dog so will chat it over with him too.  Can you eat the eggs if Tylan is in their system?  It's an antibiotic (which I am sure you know) I seem to recall reading you can but not sure....... Not that I have any eggs to eat yet!!

[shetlandpaul]

that was good of him. it would have been picked up on your site. not expensive so don't worry you have not cost him a fortune. i think it would be best to give the eggs a miss. i had to treat mine last year plus treating some for infectious broncitus one had a no eating for two weeks i can't remember which. the good new is that you should not have to treat the birds again. they will gradually get used to the bug. if you only treated for one day with the wormer you need to do a full worming as soon as you get it, if they are only just coming into lay then you won't miss to many eggs. try putting a little cider vinigar in there water it helps make the gut more resistant to parasites.

just checked don't eat whilst treating. give it a day then they are fine.

[doganjo]

If you do get any eggs give them to Spencer, they'll give him a nice shiny coat adn won't do him any harm.

[spencers mum]

Thanks all- I may be acting a little thick here and I've re-read earlier posts.....how have they got 'whatever they may have got' since they've been here?  Is it because it's new clean land? What about the barn they were in with the other 150 or so birds b4 they got here? Or does is not work like that? Very confusing! Anyhow I hope that with 5 days of Tylan and a 'complete' 5 day dose of Flubenvent that should do the trick! Here's hoping

[shetlandpaul]

wild birds. but its reasonably quick so you would have seen it quite quickly. as said its just a fact of keeping chucks outside they can get the odd bug or two. realy you have done all you can try and enjoy them. chickens can be fun honest.

in the commercial hatchery they would have been protected by the hatcherys cleaning and disinfection routine. they could have got it at the smallholding but it realy would not make a diffrence they would have caught it sooner or later.

[spencers mum]

Thanks - I get it now!!  I'll be an expert soon!

[plumseverywhere]

..or an 'egg-spert'!! sorry , couldnt' resist 

[spencers mum]

Very funny!lol! Should have seen that coming as my friend said the other day "you must be very eggcited......"