Author Topic: I am totally numb with shock  (Read 4816 times)

Roxy

  • Joined May 2009
  • Peak District
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I am totally numb with shock
« on: February 05, 2010, 09:43:53 pm »
My family have farmed here and the adjoining farm for a total of 80 years.  Never had any cattle test positive for TB.  An outbreak occured at a farm about a mile away, and a couple of farms along from there last Autumn.  Yes, we have badgers here, but because we had no cases, we assumed our badgers were clean, and whilst you have clean badgers, no infected badgers will be allowed into their territory.  OK, with the outbreak nearby, it did cross my mind .....but no major worries.

We rent some land  by the house to an old man who keeps suckler cows.  He has been bringing his cows for 10 years.  Lovely little herd, built up when he started his own farm over 50 years ago.  Mothers and daughters in his herd, and even grandmothers.  Never buys any in, just keeps a couple of calves to replace the old ones, when they die of old age.

He had his TB test in December.  We are on 4 year ones, not being a high risk (or we weren't until the recent outbreak).  Two of his cows were suspect, and had to be re tested in 60 days.  That 60 days was Monday this week.  Vet returned yesterday to check, and they both had the lumps on their necks.  So, unfortunately they will be culled next week.  The farmer is devasted, and so am I.  He will now have to have his herd tested and monitored and is in effect closed down for selling his stock.  Also, his cows are due to calve shortly, so not only will he lose two cows, but also two unborn calves, which I find really upsetting.  And until the cows are opened up after their death, its still not certain they actually do have TB.  If it turns out they haven't, well ......

I have not had any stock on the land, although I was just about to buy some weaned calves in and run them on for the summer, and was going to put them on this land.  But I would be in the same boat when it comes to selling - having to have tests etc.  I feel its not worth the worry, in a way, which is a shame.

The farmer had said its unlikely he will be bringing any more cows to our land - not that I blame him.  But we will lose the income for one thing.

As to why its happened, well, I was never convinced about the badgers causing it, but now I don't know. What I do know, is that the farmer next to our fields, has had two cows with TB.  He has land where the outbreak occured last Autumn, as to whether his cows were up there I don't know.  Maybe its not our badgers, but his cows?

Short of someone trapping the badgers, culling the infected ones, and releasing the healthy ones, I am not sure what the answer is.  Maybe there is a vaccination for badgers to stop TB?

What I do know is that we are all in shock by what has happened.

doganjo

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Clackmannanshire
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Re: I am totally numb with shock
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2010, 09:48:49 pm »
 That's awful, Roxy.  Is it possible to talk to the farmer who had the outbreak to see if this has come from his cows, or is it academic anyway?  I feel so sorry for the old farmer too.  Do his 2 in calf cows have to be culled if his other cow tested positive?
Always have been, always will be, a WYSIWYG - black is black, white is white - no grey in my life! But I'm mellowing in my old age

shetlandpaul

  • Joined Oct 2008
Re: I am totally numb with shock
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2010, 09:49:27 pm »
i always wondered that were do the badgers catch bovine tb from. they may well spread it but they are not the cause. pity for the cows and for the farmer and even the badgers if gased or shot.

MiriMaran

  • Joined Feb 2009
  • Derbyshire
Re: I am totally numb with shock
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2010, 10:02:53 pm »
Oh Roxy what horrible news.  I always though that badgers and cows could pass it to and from each other so if a cow has mingled with TB Badgers and is then moved to an area with non TB Badgers that the cow could pass it on.  I'm probably totally wrong, but that is how i thought it spread.

ballingall

  • Joined Sep 2008
  • Avonbridge, Falkirk
Re: I am totally numb with shock
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2010, 10:08:27 pm »
Sorry to hear Roxy. i don't know how that will affect you in the future- will you be able to keep animals on the land going forward?

And for your neighbour too, to loose stock at any time is awful, but when they are pregnant its horrendous.


Beth

Roxy

  • Joined May 2009
  • Peak District
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Re: I am totally numb with shock
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2010, 10:15:23 pm »
I  think I can put cattle on the land, but its likely they would need to be tested before going for sale.  The farmer did say that when his cows calve, and those calves go for sale in the autumn, they will have to be tested well in advance, to make sure they are clear.

I am looking into fencing off the fields with badger proof fencing - leaving an area along by the river where they have a track, so they can still pass by, but not enter the fields.  Maybe not stop the TB, I don't know, but maybe give me peace of mind to continue farming?

bamford6

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Re: I am totally numb with shock
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2010, 06:30:47 pm »
cows have to be culled we had 3 got £400 compensation they was worth £1000 carnt sell till may iff all ok i dont think the badger thing just think its luck .the beasts was 6 months old .i was planning to keep them for my stock sent me mad for weeks

little blue

  • Joined Jun 2009
  • Derbyshire
Re: I am totally numb with shock
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2010, 09:01:23 pm »
Have only just read this, so sorry for you Roxy.
A local goatkeeper told me that her billy had to have an extended stay on his 'honeymoon' because of a bTB standstill.  Will it affect your animals like this?
Little Blue

Roxy

  • Joined May 2009
  • Peak District
    • festivalcarriages.co.uk
Re: I am totally numb with shock
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2010, 09:39:12 pm »
Fortunately, my goats are at a separate holding number, only up the track, mind you, so ok at the moment.  To be honest, if it is the badgers, then the same badgers will be marching round both lots of fields,

 

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