Author Topic: Paylene (Ractopamine Hydrochloride) used in pigs.  (Read 5550 times)

Tullywood Farm

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Paylene (Ractopamine Hydrochloride) used in pigs.
« on: July 17, 2009, 11:26:37 am »
Hi Smiffy, And everyone else of course.

I thought that you might like to read this as you mentioned under the Monsanto topic about Chicken and pig growth promoters.

http://www.livestocktrail.uiuc.edu/porknet/questionDisplay.cfm?ContentID=5050

This link Above is telling of the benefits(YEAH RIGHT) of using Paylene,But I have done some research into this and here is a link that links it to Cancer and Heart failure also PLEASE note that our friends from Pig Business are the number 1 users in America and just look what they tell China who REFUSE to use it. (3 week and it will be Paylene FREE!).

http://www.naturalnews.com/025861_Paylean_meat_food.html

ALSO

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ractopamine

Let me know what you all think, I am just delighted that I produce all my own Meat and I can Guarantee that it is totally Free from all this S**T!.

Just think though that Smithfield want to take over the supply of all shops in England and the rest of the World for that matter.

Kind regards
Joe

P.S Just think how lucky we all are knowing this as a lot of People go around oblivious to the fact that this is Happening.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2009, 12:13:29 am by Tullywood Farm »

smiffy

  • Joined Jun 2008
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Re: Paylene (Ractopamine Hydrochloride) used in pigs.
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2009, 09:19:06 am »

P.S Just think how lucky we all are knowing this as a lot of People go around oblivious to the fact that this is Happening.


people dont care Joe...Its cheap meat. How many times do you go to the supermarket and see folks picking the cheapest??? This is not a critiscism of the individuals, its programing. offers three for 2, 10 packs of meat for a £10. how many even think, how do you produce 2 chickens for a £5.

when i was a kid, and its not that long ago ;D butchers had pigs and lambs hung in the shop, took them down and choped em up. This is all hidden from view now. How many kids dont associate animals with meat?

infact many adults are much the same. when we started out people were horrified, we ate our lovely pet pigs!!!! They dont realise the slab of pork they buy once used to breath.
It is safer for joe public not to think about it, and therefore not to look in to what they eat.
I know vegis who eat chicken!!! cos its not meat.

education in schools is key, however they dont want to teach our kids useful stuff anymore, just ho to pass exams!

sabrina

  • Joined Nov 2008
Re: Paylene (Ractopamine Hydrochloride) used in pigs.
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2009, 11:13:36 am »
The very reason i am raising our own meat but most families do not have the choice if they are on low wages. Its a case of trying to feed the kids and pay all the bills.

Farmer

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Re: Paylene (Ractopamine Hydrochloride) used in pigs.
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2009, 12:07:17 pm »
Additives and growth promotors are what got farming a bad name in the first place...when the buck became more important than animal welfare...don't use them, never have, never will...keep it natural and grow happy, healthy, tasty animals. There's always a hidden price to pay when meat is sold cheaper than it costs to rear it...it may make economic sense to shop around when money is tight and you have a family to feed...but its better to feed them a little healthy food rather than a lot of junk which could harm them in the future!

Farmers are always under pressure to produce more for less and many of them have little or no choice than to make compromises if they want to compete for supermarket business...but there will always be a market for home grown quality produce; not all of the public are fooled by the rhetoric of the supermarkets and we find a growing number of younger buyers are discerning about what they feed their families on...the future is smallholding and locally grown produce that's what people will want.

Farmer
 :farmer:

smiffy

  • Joined Jun 2008
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Re: Paylene (Ractopamine Hydrochloride) used in pigs.
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2009, 12:12:23 am »
Sabrina, they do have a choice. instead of eating c**p meat, they could eat less meat.

One of my favorite digs is when i see a pork chop in tesco, that says 87% pork, to ask a member of staff what else is in the chop, as it looks like a chop to me :o

Its rather naughty, but next time you look at a chop and it states 87% pork wonder why it has water salt stabalizers and god only know what else in it. People dont look at the lables hard enough. especially meat, as it just looks like meat ???

The pork produced is soo lean it can not cook without water. It cooks like cardboard even with water!!

I admit we who can produce our own are very lucky, but we have made sacrifices. I dont go cloths shopping, i have very few shoes, (live in wellies). I dont have the top brands with names on, we dont have sky tellie the list that the majority of people class as the norm, yet we eat good quality home produced meat.

Farmer i agree that more people are taking an interest, but its not enough. and with the current ecconomic issues that could fall. Companies like smithfield with their low quality, low welfare  product well fill the shelves!


They have moved their operation to eastern europe, using farming methods that are dubious at least  and are preparing to send their pork to the UK.

Tullywood Farm

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Re: Paylene (Ractopamine Hydrochloride) used in pigs.
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2009, 01:43:07 am »
Hi Smiffy,

I have just got back from Castlewellan show just outside Belfast.
I was there hoping to find some Rare Breed Sheep!.
Anyway I thought you would like to know that in Ireland (I don't know the rules in other countries) you can add up to 40% water into Pork and Bacon so when people are shopping if they don't look at the water content they could actually be paying more for their meat that if they Bought a more expensive piece from a farmer etc.

Consider a piece at 1kg priced at £10 per kg they pay £10
Now add 40% water but reduce the price to £7.50 per kg.
1.4kg or 1400 grams @ £7.50 per kg = £10.50.
So they would be paying £0.50p more even though its £2.50 per kg cheaper and then when they cook the piece of meat it would Shrink right back down to its normal size where the one that was not pumped will stay more or less the same.

I have a saying.

"The sweet taste of low price is soon forgotten with the bitter taste of low quality".

I know that I have used the Pound sign instead of Euro but I know a lot of people reading this will be in the UK and it would be exactly the same in Euro.

I have to say also that Most of my customers are people with young family's that want their Children to eat healthy and want to know where their food comes from with me they can visit the farm when ever they want.(They could nearly pick out the leg of pork they want!)

I would also like to add that I eat meat every day, But I have always even before we had our own made sure I knew where it came from, I don't keep cattle but I would always use a good Butcher for buying beef.
One that can tell you exactly where the animal comes from, I am lucky my local Butcher only kills his own Beef and I do Lamb and Pork.
But Please tell everyone to go to there local supplier and talk to them about their product and I am sure if you let them know what you want they will be only too glad to help you.
The other thing to remember is unlike the Supermarkets you can always try to knock the price down a bit with your local Butcher.(I always offer discount, it's funny even the smallest discount makes the difference to the customer).

Kind regards
Joe :)

 

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