Author Topic: Hello from Perth  (Read 4430 times)

wildgeese

  • Joined Apr 2011
Hello from Perth
« on: May 05, 2011, 05:01:22 pm »
Have been meaning to introduce myself for days, so I will do it now over a cup of tea.

I'm from London originally but moved north in increments via Wales, Crewe and Lincolnshire and settled in Scotland; it was going to be temporary (I was up here on a course) but it didn't work out that way.

It all started with horses. Years ago I had a trekking pony on winter loan; then when I learnt that she was being sold out of trekking for carting the unwary on Borth beach, I bought her (in installments; £30 a month!). Then I bought a second horse; second horse was in foal; I needed a field as livery fees were crippling. The horses messed up the grazing; I bought a house cow to sort it out. After initial disagreements (first time I milked her I got enough for a cup of tea; no WAY would she let down) I found myself drowning in milk; I bought weaners to help me consume it. Then there was all that s**t! So I started growing potatoes. Someone asked me if I wanted some chickens; black sumatras. And hey! I looked around and I was a smallholder up to the neck! However it was financially hard; the holding could feed me but it didn't entirely feed all the animals; I didn't have the area to make hay, etc.. Plus this was not commercial; I had to work to generate some sort of income and there was little or no work available; which was why land in this area (Lincolnshire) was so cheap in the first place. Commuting capabilities and e-commerce would have changed all that now, I suppose.

I sold up and moved to Scotland, coming up here to study originally but bringing the cattle and horses with me. The weaners had been eaten and the fox had had my lovely chooks, digging under the wall of their shed one night and up through the earth floor. I sunk the last of my savings into buying a field, a listed smallholding, originally a market garden, and grassing it down as a temporary home for them; more than twenty years later I am still here.

I have often wanted to put my holding on a commercial footing but for one reason and another, its only now that the opportunity is really within my grasp. I have won SRDP funding to plant an orchard and nut grove and this year the heavy stuff has to happen; clearing the hillside of scrub and re-fencing to control the deer, then planting in autumn / spring. I also have geese but am re-thinking my poultry and hope to keep chickens too.

I must say it is great to find a site by and for smallholders; thanks to Rosemary for introducing me to this.






Brucklay

  • Joined Apr 2010
  • Perthshire
    • Brucklay Pygmy Goats
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Re: Hello from Perth
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2011, 05:11:19 pm »
Welcome from Aberdeenshire (ex Meikleour, Perthshire) ran out off space there so further north it is. Your plans sound great, where abouts are you?
Pygmy Goats, Shetland Sheep, Zip & Indie the Border Collies, BeeBee the cat and a wreak of a building to renovate!!

Hilarysmum

  • Joined Oct 2007
Re: Hello from Perth
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2011, 05:32:30 pm »
Wow thats a great story, please keep us updated.  Have you thought of keeping a couple of Gloucestershire Old Spots in the orchard?

wildgeese

  • Joined Apr 2011
Re: Hello from Perth
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2011, 05:56:50 pm »
I live in Perth but my wee bit of land is midway between Perth and Dundee. One big limitation has always been not living on site; apart from the time I was made homeless and effectively squatted there with my young daughter. Proving that the holding is commercially viable is the first step in getting a house on site. Its very hard to convince the planners that getting a house isn't the ultimate aim when in fact using the holding to its full potential is the aim; the house is a means to that end.

Pigs are difficult for us because cut flowers were previously grown on part of the land and there are still too many bulbs there; I think pigs would root them out and poison themselves. What do you think? are they more discerning than this? If so I would gladly use pigs to clear my hillside. Certainly the cattle never ate the growing daffs (I don't have cattle now; I found them milking a house cow impossible with being off-site) and the horses and geese don't touch them; also where a friend's pet lamb escaped into her garden, it ate the petals off all her daffs but never touched the stems or leaves. 

Rosemary

  • Joined Oct 2007
  • Barry, Angus, Scotland
    • The Accidental Smallholder
Re: Hello from Perth
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2011, 07:15:05 pm »
Hi, Elaine! Great to see you on here! You really ARE an accidental smallholder  ;D

Will you be joining CSSA as well?


piggy

  • Joined Oct 2008
Re: Hello from Perth
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2011, 12:08:44 am »
Hi and welcome from Suffolk. :wave:

darkbrowneggs

  • Joined Aug 2010
    • The World is My Lobster
Re: Hello from Perth
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2011, 01:09:13 pm »
Hi there and welcome  :wave:  from Sue in Worcestershire - what you are doing sound great  :)
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Stevie G

  • Joined Jul 2010
Re: Hello from Perth
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2011, 02:32:13 pm »
I live in Perth but my wee bit of land is midway between Perth and Dundee. One big limitation has always been not living on site; apart from the time I was made homeless and effectively squatted there with my young daughter. Proving that the holding is commercially viable is the first step in getting a house on site. Its very hard to convince the planners that getting a house isn't the ultimate aim when in fact using the holding to its full potential is the aim; the house is a means to that end.

Pigs are difficult for us because cut flowers were previously grown on part of the land and there are still too many bulbs there; I think pigs would root them out and poison themselves. What do you think? are they more discerning than this? If so I would gladly use pigs to clear my hillside. Certainly the cattle never ate the growing daffs (I don't have cattle now; I found them milking a house cow impossible with being off-site) and the horses and geese don't touch them; also where a friend's pet lamb escaped into her garden, it ate the petals off all her daffs but never touched the stems or leaves. 

What sort of cut plants are you talking about??? If it daffs then yes they are poisonous to pigs, but pigs ain't stupids and I think you'll find they won't touch them!!!! Probabbly just dig them up and leave them on the suface, so go along with a bag and clear them.

Depends of course how many there are??? :wave:

CameronS

  • Joined Aug 2009
  • North East Fife
Re: Hello from Perth
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2011, 07:19:57 pm »
Welcome from fife  :wave:

SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • Cornwall
  • Rarely short of an opinion but I mean well
    • Trelay Cohousing Community
Re: Hello from Perth
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2011, 11:11:18 pm »
What a great story, as Rosemary says a true accidental smallholder.  Welcome from North Cumbria - although I've seen a few posts from you over the last few weeks so you don't feel like a newcomer!
Don't listen to the money men - they know the price of everything and the value of nothing

Live in a cohousing community with small farm for our own use.  Dairy cows (rearing their own calves for beef), pigs, sheep for meat and fleece, ducks and hens for eggs, veg and fruit growing

doganjo

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Clackmannanshire
  • Qui? Moi?
Re: Hello from Perth
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2011, 11:58:34 pm »
Welcome from Clackmannan too - I'm after your money, honey - Join CSSA as Rosemary says - it's only a tenner! (I'm Treasurer  ;) ;D) We were at Rosemary and Dan's yesterday - you could have been there!  I'm not an accidental smallholder I'm an imitation one!  Just got ducks and hens, dogs and Rosemary's pal, Rio, my ginger non-tom, grow sporadic veg and fruit.  Look forward to meeting you soon.
Always have been, always will be, a WYSIWYG - black is black, white is white - no grey in my life! But I'm mellowing in my old age

gillsta

  • Joined Apr 2011
  • Methlick Aberdeenshire
  • Gillsta
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Re: Hello from Perth
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2011, 06:55:21 am »
Hello and welcome from Aberdeenshire.

Rosemary whats CSSA ?? ;D
Showing and breeding Pygmy Goats
Always room for another goat as he will never notice

lill

  • Joined May 2011
Re: Hello from Perth
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2011, 09:03:36 am »
welcome to the fourm, from central scotland :wave:

 

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