Author Topic: phantom pregnancy? any experience/ advice?  (Read 4908 times)

messyhoose

  • Joined Nov 2017
Re: phantom pregnancy? any experience/ advice?
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2022, 09:13:48 pm »
twizzle- that is the exact thing i am afraid of. I only started on this particular defluking programme this year after i decided i needed a more radical approach, but it was also wetter this summer than any summer since ive been here.
thing is TBZ is the only thing that kills all stages as as mentioned by some else its usually the early immatures that do the most damage.
i have asked my vets on numerous occasions to help me draw up a specific health plan but they have never come good. The only other vets in this region are awful.

SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • Cornwall
  • Rarely short of an opinion but I mean well
    • Trelay Cohousing Community
Re: phantom pregnancy? any experience/ advice?
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2022, 10:32:52 pm »
Ask other nearby sheepkeepers what they do.
Don't listen to the money men - they know the price of everything and the value of nothing

Live in a cohousing community with small farm for our own use.  Dairy cows (rearing their own calves for beef), pigs, sheep for meat and fleece, ducks and hens for eggs, veg and fruit growing

shep53

  • Joined Jan 2011
  • Dumfries & Galloway
Re: phantom pregnancy? any experience/ advice?
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2022, 12:49:40 pm »
I refer you back to my answer early in the post , having run 1200 ewes +rams+ewe hoggs  on west coast of scotland with 90"+ rain and all natural water from burns and resistance to TBZ ,i can say it is possible to control fluke ,you have to be flexible in times between doses as some fields are worse than others and use the correct product for the time of year

messyhoose

  • Joined Nov 2017
Re: phantom pregnancy? any experience/ advice?
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2022, 10:36:46 pm »
hi Sallyin North- no-one treats up here- the natives are on the shore 1/2 the year (no snails) and the land they come in and lamb on is free of sheep for 1/2 the year so any potential for fluke is broken by the chain of hosts being broken.
Difference is ive  rescued over the years a bunch of waifs and strays and they are pets (like dogs- have no wild instinct to run free, hide in the barn when it rains etc etc) it would be mean for me to let them loose on the shore as they have not learnt from a mom how to survive out there. And a well meaning new farmer who reared lambs and did just that found they had all perished over the winter (well apart from the few another pet sheep keeper rescued again!)
Only thing people treat for here is keds.
My landlords mom said a sheep reared here in the past was condemned at the abbatoir with a flukey liver.
Hi Shep53 i would be really grateful if you would perhaps give me some of your time to help me where my vet has failed to draw up some kind of a plan- it is so confusing and ive read scops and nadis info on fluke over the years and even they contradict themselves- i think what they are getting at is this changing clinate has resulted in there not being distinct fluke "season" and that they can be active all year round! I have a VERY complicated situation here and i will not bore you all with that Novel but i feel like i am drowning at the mo- i thought i had got a plan nailed and yet sheep are still going sick.
I am going to do a fecal sample (altho i dont know if its the right time of year for that to prove fluke activity). Bloods only poss if a vet is coming over.
Ive also contacted Mordun Institute who are researching fluke in the hope there may be a future sheep keepers can work with given the changing climate and the increasing, since no new flukicides are on the horizon.
Shep if you feel you want to give me some time let me know, i guess i can share my email

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