Author Topic: Someoen with the same ideals as me  (Read 4378 times)

doganjo

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Clackmannanshire
  • Qui? Moi?
Always have been, always will be, a WYSIWYG - black is black, white is white - no grey in my life! But I'm mellowing in my old age

SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • Cornwall
  • Rarely short of an opinion but I mean well
    • Trelay Cohousing Community
Re: Someoen with the same ideals as me
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2014, 09:49:06 am »
Love it  :thumbsup:
Don't listen to the money men - they know the price of everything and the value of nothing

Live in a cohousing community with small farm for our own use.  Dairy cows (rearing their own calves for beef), pigs, sheep for meat and fleece, ducks and hens for eggs, veg and fruit growing

kelly58

  • Joined Mar 2013
  • Highlands, Scotland
  • Home is were my animals are.
Re: Someoen with the same ideals as me
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2014, 10:06:12 am »
Here here ! Every dog we have had has been a rescue, never ceases to amaze me how some idiots treat their dogs

sabrina

  • Joined Nov 2008
Re: Someoen with the same ideals as me
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2014, 11:15:55 am »
So true  :thumbsup:

ladyK

  • Joined Dec 2012
  • Conwy Valley
Re: Someoen with the same ideals as me
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2014, 11:44:10 am »
Couldn't agree more!
"If one way is better than another, it is the way of nature." (Aristotle)

pigalicious

  • Joined Feb 2014
  • Caithness
Re: Someoen with the same ideals as me
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2014, 07:01:33 pm »
Here here!   There are too many careless breeders in the UK too!  I think that all dog breeder should be licensed and then they could be inspected. this of course wouldn't stop them selling to bad owners, but would in my opinion be a step in the right direction. i think the same should apply to cats and horses. P

Kitchen Cottage

  • Joined Oct 2012
Re: Someoen with the same ideals as me
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2014, 07:41:21 am »
I don't disagree with the article, but I do disagree with the idea of licensing.

Licensing is the states permission to undertake an action and my freedoms are being impinged too much as it is.

I DO agree though, for the welfare of animals conditions under which animals can be transferred and raised.  That is legislation not licensing.  Governments are lazy and weak.  They would rather restrict the right in the first place than control in any meaningful sense the conditions under which something is carried out.  But fundamentally, I am a free person and any restriction on my right to act as such should be enthrined in legislation and not in secondary licensing.  You wouldn't be able to pass all the restrictions through parliament than have slipped under the radar in the last 20 years.

SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • Cornwall
  • Rarely short of an opinion but I mean well
    • Trelay Cohousing Community
Re: Someoen with the same ideals as me
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2014, 08:48:49 am »
Idealogically I agree with you completely KC.  Whether we can afford the luxury of a properly run democracy now we don't create any wealth however... ???
Don't listen to the money men - they know the price of everything and the value of nothing

Live in a cohousing community with small farm for our own use.  Dairy cows (rearing their own calves for beef), pigs, sheep for meat and fleece, ducks and hens for eggs, veg and fruit growing

doganjo

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Clackmannanshire
  • Qui? Moi?
Re: Someoen with the same ideals as me
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2014, 10:25:32 am »
When the article refers to breeders it includes breeders of mongrels and crossbreeds.  They ALL add to the over population of dogs not just in the UK, but right across the world.

Licensing is legislation and it's the only way to control breeding.  Money talks and if people can breed a bitch and make money out of it they will - whatever the breeding behind it.  They won't stop that voluntarily so legislation is definitely required.  I understand about freedom of choice but these dogs that are born, are passed from pillar to post, then killed for no other reason than they can't be found a home, have no choice either.
Always have been, always will be, a WYSIWYG - black is black, white is white - no grey in my life! But I'm mellowing in my old age

darkbrowneggs

  • Joined Aug 2010
    • The World is My Lobster
Re: Someoen with the same ideals as me
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2014, 11:52:41 am »
I never bred from any of my girls, though Iwould have dearly loved to have had puppies from them I worried that I would be able to find good homes for all of the spare puppies. 


I feltl guilty about not rehomeing unwanted dogs, but the one time I did rather than buy another Dane I managed to get the one which had been returned to the home twice already after being abandoned the first time, and it took me the rest of his nearly fif


teen years to get him properly trained, and even in his last days he was capable of giving me hassle  :eyelashes:


Having said that authorities only normally seem to stop the law abiding citizens from doing anything and choose to come down hard on those, whilst letting those who flout the rules continue to do so as its too much effort to bother to stop them
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