[ScotsGirl]

It's only England according to the Defra book that came in post last week. There are changes on tagging rules as well. Slaughter lambs now need EID and tightening up on individual identification

[Womble]

Oh heck.  I'm so struggling with all the rules and regs for sheep (due to get our first ewes in a fortnight). I wish we'd gone with just having children instead, like everybody else - it all seems so much simpler! 

[Rosemary]

Oh heck.  I'm so struggling with all the rules and regs for sheep (due to get our first ewes in a fortnight). I wish we'd gone with just having children instead, like everybody else - it all seems so much simpler! 

I've just done  aig movement on line and I do the cattle online, so I'm wondering if I should do the sheep on-line too. Had a look and think I might give them a ring this afternoon. There's some info in, from the abattoir but it's not complete for some reason.

[ZaktheLad]

Oh heck.  I'm so struggling with all the rules and regs for sheep (due to get our first ewes in a fortnight). I wish we'd gone with just having children instead, like everybody else - it all seems so much simpler! 

Oh, I am definately glad I decided on the sheep!!

[Marches Farmer]

What I don't understand is that if you have to set up the movement before you leave and print off 3 copies (1 for departure and 2 for haulier) what happens if you go to the shed and 2 of the 23 you sorted out yesterday evening have started limping so you decide not to take them.  Do you then have to set up a new movement, or how do you alter the original one?  Does someone phone you to ask what happened to the other 2?   This isn't supposition - I saw my neighbour at market this morning and he'd intended to take in 20 cull ewes but couldn't find three of them in the fog!  Much easier to simply change the total on the AML1 form.

[Badger Nadgers]

I wish we'd gone with just having children instead, like everybody else - it all seems so much simpler! 

Yes, but eating children is frowned upon though.

[Womble]

Not as cute either! 

[Mays]

I wonder hwo this will work if I show my goats in England and wales?? but I reside in Scotland  

[jaykay]

What I don't understand is that if you have to set up the movement before you leave and print off 3 copies (1 for departure and 2 for haulier) what happens if you go to the shed and 2 of the 23 you sorted out yesterday evening have started limping so you decide not to take them.  Do you then have to set up a new movement, or how do you alter the original one?  Does someone phone you to ask what happened to the other 2?   This isn't supposition - I saw my neighbour at market this morning and he'd intended to take in 20 cull ewes but couldn't find three of them in the fog!  Much easier to simply change the total on the AML1 form.

Or your printer is out of ink, or you are just plain scatty like me and forget forms until you're running out the door, grab a blank one and fill it in in the car.......these folk who plan such things live tidy, ordered, office-based lives!

[Anke]

I wonder hwo this will work if I show my goats in England and wales?? but I reside in Scotland  

I complete my Scottish forms and send them to SAMU on my return (one for outward and one for return journey). Have had no-one phoning me up and complain yet. As the animals are my responsibility while at the show, I think this is correct. Have done this for a few years now.

I have refused to do electronical forms, except for pigs, and I do that over the phone and take a paper copy. Because there are times when one of my goats isn't well enough (or I cannot catch a sheep or we are snowed in and I don't even get to go anywhere...) and the numbers change.