[danconfessed]

Morning all,

New to the site so a big soggy, rainy hello from Essex

I am in the process of having my first sheep.  (I have kept pigs for over 7 years on my own land)
I have been researching like mad and assesing the best breed to start with.  I am in the process of renting some land with my neighbour next door but am after some info.   Do I need to use my neighbours CPH number?  He has his own cattle but do i need my own flock number for the sheep? 

Thanks in advance for your help.  If you also have any starter advice i would be glad to hear it

Dan

[shygirl]

youd be better to ask your animal health and explain the situation to them.
are the cattle sharing the field at same time?

[bigchicken]

You will have to use your neighbours C P H for movement records on and of his land and your new sheep should come with their ear tags in place from the holding of birth.

[Hillview Farm]

Now this is a tricky question, speak to animal health.
 
I had this problem, I keep my sheep on my boss's land. long and the short of things, I had to get my own CPH number on the land and my own flock number. Got slightly told off by Defra and trading standards for having them in someone elses name when they are my own.

You can also get a CPH number with your house and link the grazing

[bigchicken]

Yes I can see how you would need your own flock number but I can't see how a bit of land can have two C P H number. I have several pieces of land which belongs to other folk and have been told of for not using there C P H number. I have my own C P H number but it is only a number connected  to my name and no land as I rent all the land I use.

[SallyintNorth]

youd be better to ask your animal health and explain the situation to them.

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[bigchicken]

Yes contact animal health and get back to use about the outcome please.

[graham-j]

Hi,I have sheep on another on some one's land who has there own CPH number.I spoke with animal health and they gave me a temporary no. I ask how long it would last as its temporary and they said as long as I wanted it to.

Graham.

[danconfessed]

Just as graham said. They have given me a temporary grazing number to use. It doesn't affect any standstill dates for the farmer as it's treated as my land rather than his, even though I'm renting the land. I use my flock number rather than his too.

[graham-j]

They are always extremely helpful whenever I have rung them.


Graham.

[Amber rose]

I graze my sheep at a friends farm and I have my own flock number and CPH number. The number is split into 3 parts - your county, then parish then personal identifier. So my CPH has the same county and parish number as the farm but the last 4 digits (7000) identify me as a 'landless' owner. I found the Animal Health department very helpful.

[Amber rose]

Ps I am also in Essex, near Colchester - whereabouts are you?

[SteveHants]

Yes I can see how you would need your own flock number but I can't see how a bit of land can have two C P H number. I have several pieces of land which belongs to other folk and have been told of for not using there C P H number. I have my own C P H number but it is only a number connected  to my name and no land as I rent all the land I use.

So do I and I have my own holding number on all but the very small paddocks I use - it means there is no comeback to the landowner with any tagging issues etc and is a great way of staying in their good books. 


I essentially now seem to run 5 farms....

[danconfessed]

Hi Amber Rose, im in Langdon Hills