yes jay Kay got back at 8pm very cold here moving 200 bales to day bit stiff ,I would say the sale was up and dawn i looked at some nice silver wyndots they paid £65 next pen not as good £260 for these ,then the cross breads 3 blue bells £100 pound .Yes the ram i bought from sterling i have 50 ewes from my stock I'm making a 1 field of 50 and the ram to sell in spring as a 1 lot there are worth £200 each at the mo .So that's cash for spring i will sell the other 200 i have in late October at thainstone ,So it looks like breaking even for the 12 months so not to bad on the wether for Scotland .