[TheCaptain]

I've had a portland sail past my eye level, about 5ft 10 

[shropshire_blue]

My Lleyns don't jump fences, but when I move them they always jump 4 to 5 feet high when they go through gateways!

[piggy]

I get mine from  newatlanticonline.co.uk
They are local to me but i think they do deliver nationwide.

[SallyintNorth]

When you are checking out other people's stock fencing, look at what is below the stocknetting as well as what is above.  Around here, you run one strand of plain wire just above the gound - so you can comfortably get your toe under it - and put the stocknetting the same distance above that strand.  Then two wires above the stock netting, about 3-4" apart and above the netting.  The height of the top wire is therefore about 11-12" higher than the height of the stocknetting alone.

If you have cattle or horses you will probably need to use either barbed wire or electric for your top strand, or accept that the fence will get broken quite quickly.  And if you have pigs, the bottom strand below the netting will need to be barbed, or you will need to electrify the lower part of the fence.

[Small Farmer]

Sally, horses and barbed wire don't make for good outcomes.  We protect the fence with white electric tape on stand-offs.  Electric fences also don't work well near the ground: when the grass grows and it rains you lose a lot of voltage.  Normally the bottom line of our fences is earthed so inquisitive noses get a real bang from the live line above.


Unusual to be able to tell you something!

[SallyintNorth]

Sally, horses and barbed wire don't make for good outcomes.  We protect the fence with white electric tape on stand-offs.  Electric fences also don't work well near the ground: when the grass grows and it rains you lose a lot of voltage.  Normally the bottom line of our fences is earthed so inquisitive noses get a real bang from the live line above.


Unusual to be able to tell you something!

I phrased it as I did because I know some horses and barbed wire don't mix.  We have Dales and Fells, and in common with many other owners of sensible but very heavy and greedy ponies, use barbed wire.  If I had thoroughbreds, I wouldn't dream of it.  But I don't know whether it would be practical to let my thoroughbreds roam over the hectares and hectares of rough grazing I can let the ponies have!

Your idea of plain wire below electrified is a good one - I'm pinching that!  It'll save a lot of strimming, and with pigs, help reduce the literal "earthing" they do with their snouts!

[Lostlambs]

I just installed perimeter fencing 48" page wire after chasing sheep for 3 years with electric 4 strand high tensile. They haven't got out yet. I have 1 suffolk ewe that can clear 5' easily,sails over fences like a thoroughbred horse. I'm going to move her out this year just so she can't teach all the others her tricks. I've seen some put a blocker on sheep just like a dog to stop them from chasing. It's a piece of wood dangling down in front their front legs that hits their legs when they try to run. I would think you would have to make sure they couldn't catch it on anything. It hangs from a collar and takes a while until they quit but after that seems to work and they don't try anymore

[feldar]

Well i didn't know our sheep could jump so high until about a month ago when a dog got into the show lambs in our polytunne, four out of five lambs easily cleared the hurdles and a wooden pallet behind them. After showing them a bit they've calmed down but we were worried they would get out at a show

[in the hills]

Do you know, we've discussed this one. Thinking about giving showing a go but we thought we would have to tie their leads to the hurdles  . One spring and they could be gone. That would be soooo embarrassing .... already get enough stick from the local farmers about our "goats".

[Ladygrey]

Hi thanks for all the replies

I have been busy and havnt been able to get on a laptop recently,

My Sheep do jump over the fence, I can walk outside and watch them jumping over it as if I was counting sheep to fall asleep!! They do push through the hedge into the neighboring field but thats soon to be cut back and stock wired infront of the hedge.

Unfortunatly I have limited funds ( im sure most of us do! ) and have to rely on the fencing that I am able to use from my boyfriends farm, which includeds rolls and rolls of barbed wire but no plain wire  So I was thinking, if I can afford to buy a small amount of plain wire, I can put one strand above the two strand barbed wire, thus using the barbed wire to increase the height but plain ontop.

As my kunekunes share fencing with the sheep (thank goodness pigs dont jump!) I cannot make the stock fencing above the ground, as naughty noses will soon be under the fencing!

I looked at some stock fencing in scats this morning and they do the 48 inch high stuff, but then will struggle to get posts in, how do you get taller posts in? so will think about that.

I was just about to go off out at 12 today and 5 sheep walked up to the car!!!!! I could only count 7 of them and the rest were in the farmers wheat field     so all sheep for now are shoved in the little lamb pen with hay! (apart from two wiltshire horn lambs that are impossible to catch!!!)

Bought two straining posts this morning and so when the man power arrives this evening we will try and get some more fencing done!

[piggy]

hi 


Did you get a chance to look at the web site i gave you,on there is a big price difference for 46 inch and 47 inch about £30 i think not worth it for an inch!
Mine is knocked on to 6 ft posts with still a bit to spare at the top,can post a pic if you like?
I knock mine all in myself with no problems with a post knocker.


Karen

[Ladygrey]

Hi piggy 

I see what you mean with the wire being a bit too much for an extra inch!

Would be great to see a pic

My only worry is, 48 inches is 4 feet,  my posts are all 5ft 6, and theres no way I can replace all the posts! that means only 1 foot of post in the ground... so would have to barb wire the bottoms of posts to prevent pigs rubbing on them and pushing them out of the ground.

[Ladygrey]

Oh and Karen I cant belive you can knock them in by your self!! I cant even pick up our post rammer by myself  and the ground is pretty solid! the post rammer is a two man one though

[SallyintNorth]

Unless I am misunderstanding you, I can't see why you can't use your boyfriend's barbed wire under the stock netting, then the usual height of stocknetting, then some more barbed and finally some plain.

Ie:

--------------------------------------------- plain strand on top
x----x----x----x----x----x----x----x-- barbed 3" above the netting and below the top strand
----+----+-----+-----+-----+----+-----+
----+----+-----+-----+-----+----+-----+
----+----+-----+-----+-----+----+-----+
----+----+-----+-----+-----+----+-----+ stock netting 3" above the row(s) of barbed wire
x----x----x----x----x----x----x----x-- if required, another strand of barbed 3" between the lower and the net
x----x----x----x----x----x----x----x-- barbed 2" above the gound

[Ladygrey]

Thats so cool! I have never thought of putting fencing that way, also I think that could encourage lambs not to get heads stuck!

Thanks