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molly2

  • Joined Jan 2010
Re: Tyre containers
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2010, 08:24:53 pm »
Have heard of the tyres working well but personally wouldn't eat potatoes that had been grown this way by choice due to all the nasty rubber they'd be surrounded by

doganjo

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Clackmannanshire
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Re: Tyre containers
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2010, 08:32:52 pm »
That's it!  I knew I wasn't quite rght.  Anyway I think he's lovely! ;D ;D
Always have been, always will be, a WYSIWYG - black is black, white is white - no grey in my life! But I'm mellowing in my old age

Jackie

  • Joined Nov 2009
Re: Tyre containers
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2010, 05:27:24 am »

sagehen

  • Joined Jun 2009
  • Warwickshire
Re: Tyre containers
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2010, 12:23:45 pm »
Nice link, Jackie, except for one bit in the article. It says, chemical compounds are tightly bonded into the rubber compound so it doesn't leach into the soil, but if you do research into the manufacture of tires, they do them in stages, and even if they didn't, there is no guarantee that the metals, especially cadmium doesn't break free.

http://www.nexplanrecycling.com/autorecycling.html


Jackie

  • Joined Nov 2009
« Last Edit: February 09, 2010, 03:43:42 pm by Jackie »

sagehen

  • Joined Jun 2009
  • Warwickshire
Re: Tyre containers
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2010, 04:33:47 pm »
Hiya
Thanks for that link.

However it says here:

The RP and TP were next leached in simulated rainwater in accordance with OECD
guidelines (OECD, 2004). The rain water was dripped onto columns containing the RP
or TP for 16 hours to mimic a significant rainfall event. The water was then collected
and tested for organic chemicals and metals. A preliminary test was conducted to
identify the pH at which the maximum amount of chemicals or metals would leach. Four
different acidity levels were tested and it was found that more metals leached when the
water was less acidic. Therefore, all further experiments were conducted using
simulated rainwater that was not acidic (pH 7.5). Unlike the harsh conditions created
with the organic solvent experiment, no organic chemicals were detected in the water
leachate, except formaldehyde. However, the formaldehyde was detected at levels that
were too low to be reliably quantified (i.e., <50 ppb). Barium, boron, magnesium,
manganese, potassium, silicon, and sodium leached from the RP but did not leach from
the TP in significant amounts, suggesting that most of these metals are from road dust
and not from the tires. Zinc was detected in the water from both the TP and RP
columns. The amount of zinc from the RP columns was about twice as much as was
found in the water from the TP columns.

So, there may be formaldehyde as well, although the levels are apparently too low. I'm quite cynical about this study since it's backed by multi national tire companies, unfortunately. I suppose, at the end of the day, it's a personal preference, whether or not to use tires to grow?













Jackie

  • Joined Nov 2009
Re: Tyre containers
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2010, 07:36:16 pm »
Yes true it is a baised research paper. However tomorrow Ill look for a more objective paper and Ill look to see just how much formaldhye is dangerous for humans :) In that paper it stated the rate they found was less than 50 parts per billion, that is very very low.

PS I was a research nurse and still enjoy researching so Im not doing it to be bloody minded.  :)
« Last Edit: February 09, 2010, 07:47:30 pm by Jackie »

sagehen

  • Joined Jun 2009
  • Warwickshire
Re: Tyre containers
« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2010, 12:24:11 pm »
LOL jackie, I do like research as well  ;D

northfifeduckling

  • Joined Jan 2009
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Re: Tyre containers
« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2010, 10:40:09 pm »
I'll keep using the ones I have.  :&>

Wizard

  • Joined Nov 2009
  • North East Lincolnshire
Re: Tyre containers
« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2010, 11:01:07 pm »
Hello North fife I am sure you are doing it right.There is a lass posts on RCC I don't think her and the OH are short of cash but she amazed me with buying new timber to make raised beds then she didn't paint the wood with creosote in case it contaminated the soil? I ask you?I don't support any Greenie Movement Soil Association or Organics its all a con as shown by various reports in the newspapers.The pig affair reported on here last month how many people had them two conned?If it looks right, tastes right,it is right.There is far to much cleanliness many have no immunity at all every little bug thats going they catch it ;D ;D ;D :farmer:
Don't do today what can be put off until tomorrow because today will be yesterday tomorrow

Declan

  • Joined Sep 2009
  • Rathfriland, Co.Down
Re: Tyre containers
« Reply #25 on: February 11, 2010, 11:08:43 pm »
I agree with that Wizard. I have two nieces (townies) but their house is clinically spotless, as are they, and they are forever catching colds, bugs and everything thats going round. Their mother is fanatical.
I have 3 girls under 5 years old- and I love  them getting out of the house to feed the chicks, collect the eggs and feed the sheep- and generally get mucky- my eldest girl loves to make mud bricks and dig in the stones!! I honestly believe that they do build up their immunity to all the worlds nasties without compromising their overall hygene.

northfifeduckling

  • Joined Jan 2009
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Re: Tyre containers
« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2010, 12:46:56 pm »
Well, I'm not the right person to discuss the Organic movement with - don't want to lose any friends here, lol. Issues close to our heart can turn into heated and unfriendly debates on-line, so it  better be a non-starter for me... ;)
I got the tyres last year and planted my tatties in them. Had a brilliant crop, I think that they are black and retain the heat well also makes a difference. The tatties I had planted in an old bathtub all had frozen to mush! Only later in our food group did the issues of toxins from tyres come up, or at least the possibility of the rubber not being as inert as previously thought...As we've probably eaten some of the toxins by now, I'll keep at it  ;D, I'll also try squashes and courgettes as I had a lousy crop in the soil last year - nil! Tatties will go in the ground this year, I have a few patches needing cleared and prepared :&>

Wizard

  • Joined Nov 2009
  • North East Lincolnshire
Re: Tyre containers
« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2010, 06:54:29 pm »
I'm with you Declan We had 5 boys that did every thing country boys do.Never any problems to talk of the odd cold etc none ever in hospital for ailment.None with broken bones we did have a scare when one fell out the apple tree Wash as far as possible on Sun-Mon-Tues-Wed-Thurs-Fri and on Saturday Wash possible as well in the bath.David is 49 and he gave us a fright he was taken into DPWH here in Grimsby with a suspected heart attack on Xmas afternoon 2009.He was most upset he missed the Xmas Goose He was kept in 8 days the specialist said its not a heart attack its =========== no idea how to spell or say it but it was something to do with a pipe at the heart closing and causing loss of blood circulation,But he appears to be OK now , :farmer:
Don't do today what can be put off until tomorrow because today will be yesterday tomorrow

molly2

  • Joined Jan 2010
Re: Tyre containers
« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2010, 07:14:55 pm »
I live in the middle of a workign farm, have lots of animals and am in no way upset at a bit of dirt, I find it astonishing how people can live in all cream interiors these days lol I do think people have awful immune systems these days and a bit of exposure to good old muck would do no harm but don't see how chemical exposure can help you  ??? I think that's part of the "clean"  problem, all these clean houselholds use a huge amount of cleaning products to stay that way. I had ME some years ago - chemicals do affect your body eventually.

northfifeduckling

  • Joined Jan 2009
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    • North Fife Blog
Re: Tyre containers
« Reply #29 on: February 13, 2010, 11:50:16 am »
As far as I know it has been proven that babies who live in a too clean house and prevented from eating dirt are much more prone to allergies and asthma. Surprisingly one of mine is probably allergic to Penicilin, awaiting the test.  And I'm not a houseproud mum,lol. More imporant things to do with my time  :&>

 

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