The collies are 4yr old litter mates, Glen is my son's and Gyp is mine the're exceptionally big for collies.
Glen is a pretty decent sheep dog has already sired a litter.
Gyp is so laid back he's horizontal, all he wants to do is play in the water and be everyones best friend "yo doood, I mean chasing sheep is sooooo uncool, yeah ? I mean chillax, grab a veggie treat and catch some rays maan"