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The Chicken Lady

  • Joined Mar 2008
  • Cheshire
turkeys
« on: June 03, 2011, 11:48:52 pm »
I have aquired 4 turkeys - 1 stag and 3 hens. They are laying lots of eggs which I am told are very fertile. I am running out of ideas on how to use them up so I thought I might hatch some for Christmas! Any advice gratefully received. I have hatched hens eggs and I have got housing for them. I just need advice on hatching specifically for turkeys and any advice on growing and finishing them.
Karen
Karen

Roxy

  • Joined May 2009
  • Peak District
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Re: turkeys
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2011, 11:55:12 pm »
Don't think I have ever seen a turkey egg - assume they would need a big egg cup?!!!


Hatty

  • Joined Feb 2011
Re: turkeys
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2011, 06:42:48 am »
Waitrose have started selling Turkey eggs £1.99 for 2

Can you package them for posting? I would be interested in some to try in the incubator  :wave:

Hatty
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southwestpoultry

  • Joined Jun 2011
Re: turkeys
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2011, 08:35:49 am »
Hi Karen,

Being poultry breeders we did look into breeding some turkeys for meat birds for seasonal times but after doing some research we found out that they are quite timid and are prone to just dropping dead without the slightest warning, not to say yours will but something worth keeping in the back of your mind.
Good luck with your experience.

Warmest Regards
Robert & Sarah.

South West Poultry.


The Chicken Lady

  • Joined Mar 2008
  • Cheshire
Re: turkeys
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2011, 07:22:48 pm »
I would be able to send them in the post. PM me with your details and I will see what I can do. They are good for baking - lovely sponge. Animals at my house just don't want to die - I have many geriatrics including chickens and an old Ryeland tup who must be more than 10 years old now!!!!
Karen

Eastling

  • Joined Oct 2010
Re: turkeys
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2011, 10:11:30 pm »
Hi
A bit cheeky but do you have any left? my OH has just got an incubator and is itching to try it  :D
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Skirza

  • Joined Mar 2011
Re: turkeys
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2011, 01:08:49 pm »
we have a total of 24 turkey eggs under 6 broody hens. So far 7 have hatched (27 days for us) and we're waiting on the rest. Only problem we can foresee is blackhead, but our hens are hopefully free of this. Good luck with your hatch ;D

The Chicken Lady

  • Joined Mar 2008
  • Cheshire
Re: turkeys
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2011, 09:17:26 am »
Tell me about blackhead - what is it and how to avoid it.
Karen

Hatty

  • Joined Feb 2011
Re: turkeys
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2011, 12:00:19 pm »
Interesting article on Turkey eggs in Junes Smallholder Magazine

Apparently the cost of producing a turkey egg is 70p compared with 10p for a hens egg their figures not mine.

Not as strong tasting as duck eggs

Eggcelent  ;D for baking as they have more white (traps more air)

Realistic selling Price for eating £4-£5 per half dozen

and recommends looking at http://www.turkeyclub.org.uk/?file=kop1.php

Hatty  ;D
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Hermit

  • Joined Feb 2010
Re: turkeys
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2011, 03:39:45 pm »
I sell my fertile eggs at £1.oo each, but at the moment he is not treading cause he is protecting nests and totally ignoring the other hens so I am selling them at the same price as duck eggs £2.00 1/2 dozen.

The Chicken Lady

  • Joined Mar 2008
  • Cheshire
Re: turkeys
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2011, 11:25:10 am »
Typical! I decide I am going to incubate some eggs and they stop laying! No eggs yesterday, maybe I will get some today. Can anyone tell me about blackhead?
Karen

Hatty

  • Joined Feb 2011
Re: turkeys
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2011, 01:32:49 pm »
Typical! I decide I am going to incubate some eggs and they stop laying! No eggs yesterday, maybe I will get some today. Can anyone tell me about blackhead?

Hi Karen

I found this on another forum hope it helps


Black head

Blackhead (Histomoniasis, Enterohepatitis)

Birds affected
Birds affected are: turkeys, peafowl, guinea fowl, pheasant and chickens

Blackhead is an acute or chronic protozoan disease of fowl, primarily affecting the cecae and liver. called Histomonas meleagridis

The disease is present wherever poultry are raised
It is a parasite organism called a protozoa, and is a distant cousin of the coccidia parasite
For the disease to spread amongst fowl the flock must also be infected with the caecal worm
This worm survives in the fowl yard soil, earthworms
This disease affects the large intestine, then attacks the liver
The chooks bowl is eaten by the parasite and then it attacks the liver
When the chooks die their heads go black, hence the name

Turkeys:
Blackhead is one of the critical diseases of growing turkeys and game birds
It is carried by an intestinal parasite and the symptoms are:- loss of condition, drowsy appearance, ruffled feathers, and diarrhoea, sometimes mixed with blood.
It may cause stunted growth, poor feed utilization and death.

It is of lesser economic importance in chickens since they are more resistant, but the incidence in chickens apparently is increasing

Occasionally the caruncles of the turkey may become dark blue or purple (hence the name black head)

If you have an outbreak, dead birds and their droppings must be burned
All utensils should be disinfected daily and, where possible, quick lime should be applied to the run

To prevent an outbreak, Turkeys should not be run with fowls, and young turkeys should not be run in contact with adult birds

If this is not possible, then chicks and hens should be kept on clean dry, well-drained pasture and move about frequently

Symptoms
Birds develop foamy yellow diarrhoea and sit huddled up
They appear depressed and ill
They stop eating and get very thin
Increased thirst
Droopiness
Drowsiness
Darkening of the facial region
The birds can be so ill, that their wattle and comb goes blue (thus the name blackhead)
If not treated the birds usually die
Any sulphur coloured foamy droppings should be considered as blackhead, even if the bird is not showing any other signs of the disease
Blackhead acts as an immune suppressor, which will allow other diseases to have greater effect on your bird’s health
It may cause stunted growth, poor feed utilization and then death
Transmission

The organism in passed in the fecal material of infected birds. In many instances, the organism is shed within the eggs of the cecal worm of chickens, turkeys and game birds. Free-living blackhead organisms do not survive long in nature, but those in cecal worm eggs may survive for years. Therefore, most blackhead transmission is considered due to ingesting infected cecal worm eggs. Transmission may also occur by the earthworm.

Chickens are frequently infected without showing signs of the disease. These chickens may shed enormous numbers of blackhead organisms, many of which are protected by cecal worm eggs. Outbreaks in turkeys can often be traced to direct or indirect contact with ranges, houses or equipment previously used by chickens. Free-flying birds may also contribute to an infection.

Losses

Most blackhead losses occur in young birds (six to sixteen weeks).
Morbidity and mortality are variable, but mortality seldom exceeds fifteen percent; however, it may approach one-hundred percent in uncontrolled turkey outbreaks. Losses are usually low in chickens

Prevention

Good management practices can do much to control the blackhead problem. Do not keep birds of different species on the same premises. Do not range turkeys on ground previously used by chickens unless several years have elapsed. Rotate ranges periodically if possible. Cecal worm control is necessary to reduce blackhead incidence. Wire or slatted floors reduce exposure.

Good management is the only effective method of preventing this disease since many of the effective drugs used in past years are no longer available commercially. Drugs that reduce the presence of cecal worms, and thus reduce the infection rate, are available but do not have an effect on the Histomonas organism. Refer to the cecal worm section for recommended control practices.


Necropsy
Lesions of uncomplicated blackhead are confined to the cecae and liver, thus the reason for the synonymous term, enterohepatitis.
The cecae are ballooned and walls may be thickened, necrotic and ulcerated.
Caseous (cheesy) cores within the cecae may be blood tinged.
Peritonitis may be present if ulcers have perforated the ceca walls.
Livers are swollen and display circular depressed areas of necrosis about one-half inch in diameter.
Smaller lesions coalesce to form larger ones.
Lesions are yellowish to yellow-green and extend deeply into the underlying liver tissue. Healing lesions may resemble those seen in visceral leukosis.
Blackhead diagnosis is made readily on the basis of the lesions.
Atypical forms, particularly in chickens, must be differentiated from cecal coccidiosis and Salmonella infections in particular.
Medications may interfere with atypical lesions.
Laboratory tests may be required for positive diagnosis in such cases.

Treatment:
Dose birds with EMETRYL (Active ingredient Dimetridiazole) at the dosage recommended by the manufacturer or use Hepzide, Enhaptin –always follow vet advice & read label recommendations before giving any medication
You can only get it these from a veterinarian
It is important to worm your flock every eight to twelve weeks using an efficient wormer eg. Levamisole at the manufacturers dose rate
Do not mix it with any other medication

Treat for blackhead first – EMETRYL
Then treat for worms – Levamisole
Without proper worming treatments, blackhead will be a recurring problem

References used in this article are
Book - A Guide to Keeping Poultry In Australia: by Dorothy Reading
And
http://www.msstate.edu/dept/poultry/index.htm
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The Chicken Lady

  • Joined Mar 2008
  • Cheshire
Re: turkeys
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2011, 07:19:12 pm »
Blimey. Thats some information. Thanks. I will have to read this afew times to make sure I have everything covered. Thanks for your trouble. Still no eggs today!
Karen

 

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