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deepinthewoods

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monsanto.
« on: March 12, 2013, 11:51:54 pm »

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Re: monsanto.
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2013, 08:00:18 am »
I take Farmers weekly magazine and if you saw what farmers put onto grain crops to keep disease away you would be horrified.

So whats the alternitive?
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Berkshire Boy

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Re: monsanto.
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2013, 08:34:01 am »
Is this not just anti GM propaganda. These sort of articles always use the word speculation, in other words we can say this and frighten people without having to prove it.
Everyone makes mistakes as the Dalek said climbing off the dustbin.

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Re: monsanto.
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2013, 08:38:53 am »
scaremongering!     need I say more?    Even if there is any truth in this it is so bias an article to be taken seriously.
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Re: monsanto.
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2013, 09:12:24 am »
I am so glad I am not going to have any more babies :innocent: As a young mum I suppose I was ignorant of a lot of things that have been found out now, there are lists of what you can and cannot eat while pregnant r feed babies small children, I doubt I knew any of that and as for most people on here, except the younger ones who are reproducing, many more things will be found to scare us.
My husband commented on my brother being a true socialist, I am and all my family were, its just the way we think, yet, ask me how I can sort stuff out and I would not have a clue or any answer, on one hand, we need more food more income and more resources and on the other hand, the way we get more is not good for us or our planet.
Certainly a worry, we often chat about what the next discovery will be, my parents smoked but did not realise just how bad tobacco was for you at that time, they did when it was too late!!!
Politicians are in the hands of them that make the money to pay them and we are in the hands of the politicians.....so?

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Re: monsanto.
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2013, 10:03:15 am »
Monsanto are big news in the states there is so much crap hitting the fan with the whole subject and Monsanto's name is always there among it.

deepinthewoods

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Re: monsanto.
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2013, 02:27:47 pm »
Is this not just anti GM propaganda. These sort of articles always use the word speculation, in other words we can say this and frighten people without having to prove it.


so which propaganda do yuo choose to believe. the stuff that says gm is harmful, or the stuff that says its perfectly safe.

do the research. its all out there.

Berkshire Boy

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Re: monsanto.
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2013, 03:52:02 pm »
Yes Dave it's all out there, I can waste my life trawling the internet to read loads of reports that contradict each other. That is the problem for every 100 experts saying it is harmfull there are another 100 saying it isn't. I'm sorry but I have better things to do and more important problems to deal with.
Everyone makes mistakes as the Dalek said climbing off the dustbin.

Castle Farm

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Re: monsanto.
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2013, 04:22:59 pm »
There is enough food to meet everyones needs, but there isn't enough food to meet everyones greed.

Little bald,short gezzer that wore a bed sheet and sandles said that.

Wheat, barley and oats are now subjected to all sorts of sprays to prevent all sorts of problems in growing it.
Surely if the plant breeders can produce a strain of grain that will grow without chemicals being poured onto it that cannot be all bad.

It's the same as the horse meat scandle, untill your told it's not beef no one worried. If we are fed GM food whould we know?
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deepinthewoods

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Re: monsanto.
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2013, 05:20:26 pm »
Yes Dave it's all out there, I can waste my life trawling the internet to read loads of reports that contradict each other. That is the problem for every 100 experts saying it is harmfull there are another 100 saying it isn't. I'm sorry but I have better things to do and more important problems to deal with.


until, your kids crops arent fertile and they start to run out of food, because monsanto owns all the genepool.

what will you tell your kids you did to stop it?

deepinthewoods

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Re: monsanto.
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2013, 05:22:42 pm »
There is enough food to meet everyones needs, but there isn't enough food to meet everyones greed.

Little bald,short gezzer that wore a bed sheet and sandles said that.

Wheat, barley and oats are now subjected to all sorts of sprays to prevent all sorts of problems in growing it.
Surely if the plant breeders can produce a strain of grain that will grow without chemicals being poured onto it that cannot be all bad.

It's the same as the horse meat scandle, untill your told it's not beef no one worried. If we are fed GM food whould we know?

i have said this before. monsanto breed their seeds to be resistant to monsantos round up. which means they can use three times more roundup on the crops. this is wiping out entire ecosystems.

there is a massive bee crisis.

i really do think you should do some more research. oh and sell them shares eh.

deepinthewoods

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Re: monsanto.
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2013, 05:48:40 pm »
for all the unfeasibly busy people.
 
http://www.organicconsumers.org/monsanto/
 
 
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/05/monsanto200805
 
 
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Monsanto
 
 
''Monsanto came under heavy public fire with the development of their "Terminator Technology", a.k.a. "suicide seeds", known technically as V-GURTs (varietal Genetic Use Restriction Technologies) in which the seeds resulting from the first year's planting would be sterile thereby forcing farmers around the world in the Roundup Ready System to buy their seed from them every year rather than saving their best seed for the next years planting, a traditional and economical practice [3]. Seed saving has had the benefit of allowing farmers to continually improve the quality of their crops through careful artificial selection.''   from the above link.
 
http://www.corporatewatch.org.uk/?lid=210
 
 
http://www.dailyfinance.com/2010/02/04/monsanto-the-evil-corporation-in-your-refrigerator/
 
 
 
i find it very hard to believe that on a site like tas, where good ethical food is basically the point of its existence and why we are all here, that the same totally unrealistivc arguments are used over and over again in SUPPORT of monsanto.
 
get real. they are trying to manipulate the whole worlds food supply.

smiley bucket

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Re: monsanto.
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2013, 08:29:17 pm »

 DITW said "get real. they are trying to manipulate the whole worlds food supply."
I say, they are manipulating the whole world food supply, already.
hardly anything for sale in supermarkets these days if gm free, take a little time to find out which multi-national companies are linked with monsanto then do your shopping list. 
The good thing is there are people like DITW who are trying to spread the word..... i try to do my little bit too.  :idea:
Pay our politicians minimum wage and watch how fast things change.

littlelugs

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Re: monsanto.
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2013, 08:49:13 pm »
Quote
DITW said "get real. they are trying to manipulate the whole worlds food supply."
I say, they are manipulating the whole world food supply, already.
hardly anything for sale in supermarkets these days if gm free, take a little time to find out which multi-national companies are linked with monsanto then do your shopping list. 
The good thing is there are people like DITW who are trying to spread the word..... i try to do my little bit too.  :idea:
The world is waking slowly, but the sheeple always need good shepherds to steer the herd in the right direction. For too long we have been force fed lies by our governments and people with higher agendas The native american indians trust the government to keep them safe and look what happened there! #justspreadingtheword  :innocent:

deepinthewoods

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Re: monsanto.
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2013, 09:01:17 pm »
 :) :wave:
 
a potted history of monsanto. who have decided to control your food supply.
 
'' Here's a chronology of company pursuits over the past 100 years. 1901--Founder John Francis Queeny names Monsanto Chemical Works after his wife, Olga Mendez Monsanto.
 1902--The company manufactures its first product, Saccharin. The U.S. government later files suit over the safety of Saccharin, but loses.
1917--Monsanto starts producing aspirin.
1929--Monsanto acquires Rubber Services Laboratories
1935--Monsanto goes into the soap and detergents industry, starts producing phosphorus.
1938--The company goes into the plastic business.
1939-1945--Monsanto conducts research on uranium for the Manhattan Project in Dayton, Ohio. Dr. Charles Thomas, who later served as the company's chairman of the board, was present at the first test explosion of the atomic bomb.
1943--Massive Texas City plant starts producing synthetic rubber for the Allies in World War II.
1955--Monsanto buys Lion Oil refinery, starts producing petroleum-based fertilizer.
1959--Monsanto sets up Monsanto Electronics Co. in Palo Alto, begins producing ultra-pure silicon for the high-tech industry, in an area which would later become a Superfund site.
1969--Produces Lasso herbicide, better known as Agent Orange, which was used as defoliant by the U.S. Government during the Vietnam War. "[Lasso's] success turns around the struggling Agriculture Division," Monsanto's web page reads.
1976--RoundUp is commercialized, becoming the world's top-selling herbicide.
1976--Monsanto produces Cycle-Safe, the world's first plastic soft-drink bottle. The bottle, suspected of posing a cancer risk, is banned the following year by the Food and Drug Administration. 1981--G.D. Searle gets FDA approval for NutraSweet (Monsanto completes its acquisition of Searle in 1985).
1982--Monsanto scientists genetically modify a plant for the first time.
1986--Monsanto found guilty of negligently exposing a worker to benzene at its Chocolate Bayou Plant in Texas. It is forced to pay $100 million to the family of Wilbur Jack Skeen, a worker who died of leukemia after repeated exposures.
1986--At a 1986 congressional hearing, medical specialists denounce a National Cancer Institute study disputing that formaldehyde causes cancer. Monsanto and DuPont scientists helped with the study, whose author provided results to the Formaldehyde Institute industry representatives nearly six months before releasing the study to the EPA, labor unions and the public. 1986--Monsanto spends $50,000 against California's anti-toxics initiative, Proposition 65. The initiative prohibits the discharge of chemicals known to cause cancer or birth defects into drinking water supplies.
1987--Monsanto is one of the companies named in an $180 million settlement for Vietnam War veterans exposed to Agent Orange. 1988--A federal jury finds Monsanto Co.'s subsidiary, G.D. Searle & Co., negligent in testing and marketing of its Copper 7 intrauterine birth control device (IUD). The verdict followed the unsealing of internal documents regarding safety concerns about the IUD, which was used by nearly 10 million women between 1974 and 1986. 1990--EPA chemists allege fraud in Monsanto's 1979 dioxin study, which found exposure to the chemical doesn't increase cancer risks. 1990--Monsanto spends more than $405,000 to defeat California's pesticide regulation Proposition 128, known as the "Big Green" initiative. The initiative is aimed at phasing out the use of pesticides, including Monsanto's product alachlor, linked to cancer and global warming.
1991--Monsanto is fined $1.2 million for trying to conceal discharge of contaminated waste water into the Mystic River in Connecticut. 1993--The Food and Drug Administration approves Posilac bovine somatropin (BST).
1995--Monsanto is sued after allegedly supplying radioactive material for a controversial study which involved feeding radioactive iron to 829 pregnant women.
1995--Monsanto ordered to pay $41.1 million to a waste management company in Texas due to concerns over hazardous waste dumping.
1995--The Safe Shoppers Bible says that Monsanto's Ortho Weed-B-Gon Lawn Weed Killer contains a known carcinogen, 2,4 D. Company officials argue that numerous studies have found no link to cancer.
1997--The Seattle Times reports that Monsanto sold 6,000 tons of contaminated waste to Idaho fertilizer companies, which contained the carcinogenic heavy metal cadmium, believed to cause cancer, kidney disease, neurological dysfunction and birth defects.
1999--Monsanto opens its Beautiful Sciences exhibit at Disneyland. 1999--After international criticism, Monsanto agrees not to commercialize "Terminator" seeds. ''
 
 
 
http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/05.11.00/cover/gen-food2-0019.html

 
 
 
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