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Title: Goat mineral...
Post by: colliewoman on November 03, 2011, 08:59:39 pm
I though I would share my recent experience here as it may interest others.

Wytsend very kindly sent me a (large) sample of the goat mineral she has helped to formulate for us to try with the girsl, and frankly I am amazed at the results already!
We are a few days into feeding it and are giving 2 teaspoons per day per goat.
Already Doris' coat is even thicker than before, Millie shines like a mirror and Enid.....
well it turns out my creamish coloured grubby white goat is patterned!! She has had black markings appear! If only it would stop raining I would get some photos to show you!
They eat the stuff no problem what so ever and I am thrilled with the results. Although they weren't skinny to start off with, there shape has altered slightly though it is difficult to describe how. I guess it is good condition that has been put on rather than fat.
I can reduce the amount of feed and maintain their condition.
I would recommend this stuff to anyone, especially if they live in a copper deficient area like us :thumbsup:
Thanks Wytsend, you are a star  :trophy: :trophy:
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Roxy on November 03, 2011, 10:33:24 pm
That sounds amazing stuff!!  Especially good that the goats take it ok ...mine can be fussy about things added to their feed.

I think we are in a mineral deficient area here, too.  We got an injection off the vet for two of our goats as he thought they were lacking in copper - and they changed colour almost immediately!!
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on November 04, 2011, 06:37:05 am
Would you like me to get some sent to you Mairi ?   
All samples at present are free.... all we ask is a testimonial sent to the manufacturer.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: nihicib2 on November 04, 2011, 07:36:40 am
Hey Wytsend, I would love some as well if possible, we live in a copper deficient area and even with a mineral lick we can't be sure if they are all getting what they need, I can send you on the cost of postage as I live in Ireland

Brid

 :goat:
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on November 04, 2011, 07:50:15 am
Hi  Brid,     moat of UK is deficient  but I think you would be short of a number of essential ingredients.

Can you PM me your full details  + number of goats please.

I will arrange for it to be sent asap.

Colliewoman has had a fast result... obviously her goats needed a few elements ! Not all rsults are quite as fast... normally 10days onwards shows results.   You will notice a big increase in milk yield next year.

My girls have increased by up a to 1.5pts each & have been able to cut back on the amount of feed whilst not losing yield or condition.  Speaks for itself I think !!
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Cinderhills on November 04, 2011, 09:03:33 am
Wytsend - I don't milk mine but this stuff sounds so fantastic do you think it would be worth me trying it?  I only have two girls that are about 4 or 5 years old.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on November 04, 2011, 09:43:59 am
Oh without a doubt.... now you are going to say 'of course she would say that !!'

Since feeding this to my males.... none of them have fallen off in condition during the covering season.. happy to show them to anybody !

Your girls would be better for all the additional minerals that are lacking in the ground , the hay, the feed etc.
A goat in the wild would keep wandering from place to place to get minerals from rocks, plants etc.... but as we keep them in an 'unnatural state'  i.e.,... domesticated,  we need to top them up.

Your girls will better bodily, change their coats better... you will find as Colliewoman has, that their colouring will be better & possibly you will feed less because they simply don't need it.

I need your full name & address please... suggest PM me with this and I will arrange for a sample to be sent.
Thanks for asking
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: fifixx on November 04, 2011, 01:43:46 pm
sounds fantastic, may I have a sample please? 
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on November 04, 2011, 03:23:52 pm
Can you let me have your full name ,address,Telephone number & how many goats please?   You can PM this info.

Sample will be dispatched next week.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: melodrama on November 04, 2011, 06:12:31 pm
I would love to try this if there is still some available?  I'll PM me your details x
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Roxy on November 04, 2011, 11:06:44 pm
Yes, Wytsend, would like to have a sample, too, please.  Also details of where/how  I can purchase this from?
Thank you ever to much for your help!!
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Hatty on November 04, 2011, 11:15:08 pm
wouldn't mind trying it too!
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on November 05, 2011, 06:55:20 am
Roxy & Hatty:     I will arrange for some to be sent nexr week.

Roxy can you give me a ring one evening in the next few days regarding the minerals, please
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on November 06, 2011, 07:27:23 am
Does anybody else want to try this new mineral mix for goats.... it really does work,  more testimonials coming in as I write.

I am making a list of people who have requested.... 15 so far !...... so that it can be dispatched this next week.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Hatty on November 06, 2011, 10:16:56 am
Thank you  :bouquet:
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Dogwalker on November 06, 2011, 01:00:46 pm
Hello,I'm new to this forum but have been reading this section for a while in preparation for the goats who've recently arrived.

If it's not being too cheeky could I have a sample too please.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on November 06, 2011, 02:09:09 pm
Can you PM me your full name/address/tel.no & how many goats you have.

In 2/3 weeks I would appreciate news of how you get on... sort of testimonial.  If you have the results others have had, you wont be disappionted.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Lesley Silvester on November 06, 2011, 11:58:28 pm
Add me to the list please.  I've PMed my details
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on November 07, 2011, 06:21:51 am
Will do !!!

Anybody else ?   Need to know by 1pm today please  so that I can get the samples away.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: McRennet on November 07, 2011, 09:32:24 am
Yes please!

I shall PM you.

Cheers Wytsend!
Title: Re: Goat mineral... INFO NEEDED
Post by: wytsend on November 07, 2011, 09:37:12 am
To everybody who has requested a sample or who have received one........ if, after trying out the sample for a short period, you are pleased with the results.....please could you send a short note to Denis Brinicombe outlining your particular results.This info is very important to us  to enable the product to go into full production as soon as possible.

Most people will see the best results when the goats start milking..... but in the shorter term, the new kids should be stronger & more resistant to 'kid' problems.  Also the dam is less likely to have post natal problems.

So please everybody get writing when you have had time to try it.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on November 08, 2011, 05:56:58 am
well well well !!   Seems like a evrybody who has had a sample todate are reporting fantastic results..... all the goats showing improvements in different ways.

Mostly the improvements are in coat/physical condition,  male goats keeping condition on... normally notorius for loosing it at this time of year !!

The most impressive is 2 goats whose milk recorded figs have been in the 4.5% BF range have shot up to 6%  with the same amount of yield..... no other changes of any sort !!!!!

Another has been a goat who has never looked very well  has come good and looks like any other well kept goat.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Cinderhills on November 08, 2011, 08:12:03 am
I can't tell you how excited I am to receive this sample. :) It's like getting an early Christmas present!
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Brucklay on November 08, 2011, 09:59:13 am
I realise I've missed the boat on this one and probably don't qualify as mine are not milking goats but would it be possible to let us know where we can purchase some of this mineral as I would like to give it a go if it help condition and general wellbeing in my pygmy's it would be worth it - thank you
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on November 08, 2011, 11:09:13 am
No you haven't missed the boat !! 

This mineral will help all types of goats so we would be very interested in you trialling it on the Pygmies.

This mineral compound is not yet on public sale  but5 we would be happy to send you a sample in exchange for a report on how you feel it has benefitted your goats.

If you could PM me your full name & address & I will arrange for dispatch this week.  The details of where to send your report is on a letter that will accompany the packet.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: colliewoman on November 08, 2011, 06:40:31 pm
report in the post tonight!
I'm so pleased with the results and the girls are looking fab.
But I have stumbled across a problem :o
I'VE RUN OUT!!!!!!  :( what shall I do without the magic powder???
Wytsend, any Idea how long till the stuff is available to buy? :goat: :goat:
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on November 09, 2011, 06:54:28 am
 Oh dear !!!

Call Kym at Brinicombes.... number should be on the letter, id not PM  & I will give it to you.   
She will be able to tell you availability... could possibly let you some more.   I know she is working on getting another production run done for samples  but request for more are just what we need now...... I am so pleased everything has gone to plan.

Keep recommending it to anybody with goats..... I think goatkeepers will start to realise just how deficient the feed is and also that there really has been no good supplement  until now.

Kym is in the office from about 8.30am

Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Mays on November 09, 2011, 09:27:07 am
hi, I am jsut catching up woth the forum & I would like to try the supplement, I will pm you x
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: travis on November 09, 2011, 11:21:34 am
Hi
I would also like a sample please. Will PM details.
Thanks
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on November 10, 2011, 02:53:03 pm
To everybody who has had a sample..... I need your help.

Brinicombe's, the manufacturer,  are considering putting this product into manufacture, but because it will need to be package in small quantities.... the final decision will rest with their New Products Committe, they are not easy to convince !!!

I need you all to write a few - hopefully good - comments...  and send to Kym Moore at Brinicombes... as quickly as possible, certainly by 18th November.   I realise some of you won't have had your sample long so this is really aimed at the people who had the first ones.  This is a really good product that will benefit all goats but I need comments from as many as possible.  Without good reports this product won't go into production.

So please, can I ask for as many as possible.


If anybody wants to talk about it, please ring on 01647 231456.........  evenings
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on November 12, 2011, 08:04:50 am
Any questions.... everybody happy ?    Really do need your feedback otherwise this mineral mix may not be available again.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: melodrama on November 12, 2011, 09:15:36 am
I got mine this morning and can't wait to see how it works on the girls.  I'll provide a report as soon as I can x
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: littleacorn on November 12, 2011, 11:31:06 am
Thank you very much I got my sample this morning.  Will report back asap on results.   ;D
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Dogwalker on November 12, 2011, 06:43:19 pm
Thank you, mine was waiting on the doormat when I got back this afternoon.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: grumpsgarden on November 14, 2011, 07:16:47 pm
going sound like a right idiot here ive only just read this post , ive only got 2 goats a girl and her castrate brother as company they live indoors at mo as they only have just started to let me hand feed them so i cant let them as i cant catch them , they are feed goats mix and hay and they have a lick do they need any thing else like minerals im a right  :dunce:
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on November 15, 2011, 09:38:19 am
Hi.... thank you for contacting this forum.

Goat mix does not contain much more than sheep minerals.... the manufacturuers play safe !!!!!

Goats need the same minerals as a cow !     I fee mine on dairy nuts for cattle which gives them a better balance,  BUT they do need much more.

A goats metabolic rate is something like 3 times faster than a cow   and they have the ability to get 'rid' of minerals etc that they don;t need.... sheep appear not to have this facility.

Particularly as your girls are indoors I would highly recommend this mineral mix.... simply because even with a lick available, you cannot be sure that they are using it.... in my experience, the only lick a goat freely uses, is pure salt.

If you let me have your names & address I will get a sample sent to you.... there won't be miracles overnight but they will gradually improve in their coats, possibly need less hard feed because they are utilising better.

Would appreciate feed back.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Roxy on November 15, 2011, 10:20:52 am
Thank you for my sample.  Have started the milkers on it, and will report back ASAP.  Do hope this mineral trial is successful and it gets on the market.

Goats seem to get a poor deal in the matter of feeds and minerals on the market.  I study the list of contents on the tag on the bag (if there is one- and quite often not, and its illegal not to show the weight and contents)
and sometimes  it amazes me exactly what is in there - and whats not that should be.  Feed stores  I visit quite often only keep a bag or two of goat feed, and say they hardly sell any so not interested in sourcing good quality stuff ....and quite often its past its sell by date.  And if you asked for minerals, they would point at their feed block for sheep and cattle, or if you were lucky show you some Caprivite goat mineral.

I am just wondering if this does go on the market, obviously the company is local to Wytsend, which is many miles from us.  It may not readily be available to "us oop North" which would be a shame.  There again, feed can be ordered on line nowadays, so all is not lost :)

Fingers crossed this will go on the market.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on November 15, 2011, 01:02:16 pm
Roxy can you send this post to my email addy.... [email protected].... I will forward to the Company concerned,  could be very important !
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: McRennet on November 15, 2011, 07:31:59 pm
I shall report back asap, although i have only been sent enough to put it in one feed. Will I see a result from giving only one dose??

McR :wave:
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Mays on November 15, 2011, 08:12:29 pm
thank you for my sample, I intend to start the girls on it this week x
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: reedos on November 16, 2011, 09:01:55 am
Hi,

If it's not too late - we'd ilke to give it a go and would be more than happy to send a report wherever you wanted it to go with results.

I've two Golden Guernsey cross breed females, one of which we think is in kid and one which hopefully will be soon.

Ta  ;D

Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on November 16, 2011, 02:49:58 pm
Please can you send a PM with full address/name etc  and we will get a sample to you asap.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: grumpsgarden on November 16, 2011, 04:41:21 pm
got my mineral today thank you i have started it tonight so will let you know how they get on with it , they turned there nose up at it so im hoping they will eat it up lol
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: little blue on November 16, 2011, 06:37:06 pm
thanks Wytsend, sample arrived today - signalled by 2 of the cats trying to climb inside the letterbox, so it must have fish oil in!
Will try them on it when I start the next sack of food - they always seem to perk up a little at the sound of a new bag being opened :)

:goat:
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: goosepimple on November 16, 2011, 06:52:29 pm
Many thanks will keep you/them posted, is there an equivelant for humans? :D
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Brucklay on November 16, 2011, 07:00:37 pm
Mine arrive on Monday - thank you - starting slowly as first goat turned her nose up!! just something just a wee bit different - probably the boys will end up benefiting the most as they always 'hoover' up after everyone!!
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Cinderhills on November 16, 2011, 07:02:05 pm
Started mine Monday evening too and was amazed that they gobbled up their food as usual and spent more time licking the bowl so they must like it. :yum:
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Brucklay on November 16, 2011, 07:03:29 pm
I always knew mine were spoilt  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Hatty on November 17, 2011, 06:13:44 am
Hi Wytsend  :wave:

Had mine a few days now, but not had any internet or phone (cable theft) to let you know.

Mine didn't turn their noses up at it but I but found most of the powder in the bottom of the feed bucket the first day, second day chopped carrots and sprinkled the powder on them  powder stuck to the wet cut carrots then I added them to the dry mix, clean bucket  ;)

will report back when they have had a bit more time to show effects
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on November 17, 2011, 07:06:28 am
I have always found it easier to mix with soaked sugar beet.     Juno will benefit greatly because of her legs.... Jalani will benefit from better fertility etc, her colouring will improve.... lot of little things that may not notice at this time of year.   

Milking is the obvious test for most goats   but I firmly believe that fewer goats will have milk fever next year if they are having this mineral mix,  and that also goes for mastitis.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Lesley Silvester on November 17, 2011, 09:35:18 pm
Mine arrived today.  I tgried my girls with a sprinkling on a banana skin and they ate it no trouble so I mixed some into their feed tonight.  "Eurggh!  Yuk!" etc.  I stirred some treacle into one bucket and a head instantly went in, so it'll be interesting to see how the buckets are in the morning.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: goosepimple on November 18, 2011, 10:42:48 am
Banana skins!  Treacle!   :o  My learning curve is going up MG!  My pygmies seem to be devouring their food with the secret powder on - only had a couple of feeds so far so it will be good to see what will happen - two are middle aged pygmies and one is not even a year yet, promise to get word to all those who need it and a note on TAS too :o
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Roxy on November 18, 2011, 02:42:33 pm
Having struggled  for many years to get my ponies to eat any powder mixed in their feed, I did wonder about the goats with this - especially as it does have rather a strong smell.  (Bet the postman wondered what on earth I was getting in that brown envelope ;D)  But, so far so good. Not had a problem with the milking goats turning their noses up ...yet. 

Will report back soon with my findings :)
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Hatty on November 18, 2011, 05:54:46 pm
 ??? my black and white goat is now black and brown, thought she was dirty at first but spent a good hour grooming them both and she is still black and brown, not all of her white patches have changed, but the majority have 
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: grumpsgarden on November 18, 2011, 06:04:38 pm
im worred mine wont eat the food with the powder in at all , any ideas as to what i can do to get them eating it they aslo dont eat apples or carrots nor banana as ive left these choped up in there food bowls and they are always left at next feeding :) thank you
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Roxy on November 18, 2011, 10:01:15 pm
Do you know any horse owners - they make be able to give you a bit of sugar beet to soak, then you can mix the powder in there - thats what I have done.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: grumpsgarden on November 18, 2011, 10:26:53 pm
ive been adding sugar beet was hoping that would work but i think ive got very fussy goats as they do prfer only there mix and nothing else ???
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on November 19, 2011, 07:29:16 am
??? my black and white goat is now black and brown, thought she was dirty at first but spent a good hour grooming them both and she is still black and brown, not all of her white patches have changed, but the majority have

I assume you are speaking of Jalani ?   If so,  her colouring should be black brown & white  !!!!!    If this is the case, then your soil/feed has a copper deficiency which the minerals will adjust.
Juno's colouring will 'brighten' with the additional copper.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on November 19, 2011, 07:33:34 am
Grumpsgarden...... hopefully you haven't used the recommended dose to start with !!

Try just half a teaspoon in soaked sugar beet.... a lot of goats.. mine included.. were sceptical to start with,  and now have no problems.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: grumpsgarden on November 19, 2011, 09:17:25 am
noooo ive been adding half a teaspoon , but as im not sure on what diet these 2 have been on they are very fussy and will only eat there mix they dont even touch much of there hay the only good thing is the girl now does take some hay from me at max streatch but she is still taking it im hoping they will have eaten there last meal as im getting worried they arnt eating anything  ???
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Dogwalker on November 19, 2011, 06:32:49 pm
How does it cause a colour change so quickly, surely once hair has grown it can't change, it's only the root that's alive.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Penninehillbilly on November 20, 2011, 01:57:42 am
Well, I've started my 2 off slowly, one seems happy to eat up, the other is definatley playing about with her food, but eats most of it, the other gets to clean up, too early and low amounts to see anything yet. the kids are fussy anyway, always some bits left in their tubs.
I'll try with some carrots, they love them.
does the smell go off without losing goodness if it is left open to the air for a while?
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on November 20, 2011, 06:49:48 am
There are several elements that will change hair colour but COPPER is the chief culprit.

One of the biggest symptoms is black hair having a brownish tinge sometimes worse than that.   The other, particularly in horses with black heads, is a lighter ring round the eye  known as toad eye.
Because a lot of goats have white around the eyes it often goes unnoticed.

Yes you are right it is the root that is alive.... but if an animal is short of essential elements it will rob the hair first..... the hair is the first to be restored in colour when the balance is better.


This is why so many people are seeing changes in their goats ...... most of the UK is short of a lot of essential minerals particularly copper,  but also a number of areas are high in molybdenum which PREVENTS copper uptake from the soil.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Dogwalker on November 20, 2011, 11:08:19 am
I can understand how it would restore the balance and improve colour for the new hair growth but people seem to be reporting a faster change or have some people been feeding the supplement a lot longer.
I'd have thought it would take several weeks for new hair growth to show a change.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on November 20, 2011, 11:46:02 am
Changes can be very quick.... colour pigmentation is very volatile.


My Grandfather lost all his hair colour in 24hrs during the First World War !!!!!

All livestock are the same .... if their systems are under stress for whatever reason,  colour pigmentation is usually the first to go.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: colliewoman on November 20, 2011, 06:52:31 pm
I noticed the colour difference in Enid start within the first week, the longer the supplement is given, the deeper the colour changes. How it works so quickly is beyond me as I was expecting to see a change with the next moult but there ya go! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Hatty on November 20, 2011, 09:13:25 pm
also hair will refract colour up the shaft of the hair, so if the change is at the root of pale hairs these can appear darker,
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Lesley Silvester on November 20, 2011, 11:48:22 pm
Having Sanaans, I don't expect to see a colour difference.   ;D
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: goosepimple on November 21, 2011, 06:13:22 pm
I heard they go green and hairy...
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Hatty on November 21, 2011, 06:21:15 pm
surely thats a gooseberry  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Lesley Silvester on November 21, 2011, 11:43:02 pm
[
I heard they go green and hairy...
  Depends what they've been lying in.
 ;D

surely thats a gooseberry  ;D ;D
  You could be right there.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: chickenfeed on November 22, 2011, 09:06:53 am
thanks jane recieved ours the goats soon woofed it down (only tried it on the milkers).

mum did phone and talk to someone at the production end with a couple of points.

1. this time of year the milk yeild goes down and the fats go up (according to her milk recording) so would be better tested in the spring/summer.

2. she saw no changes in any of the goats but has put that down to only having enough for a couple of days so she has asked to be informed when it hits the market to see if there are any changes over a longer period of time.

she already uses the company for other items so she is looking forward to having a proper trial, anything that helps the goats is always welcomed by her.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Roxy on November 22, 2011, 11:29:47 am
Well, the two milkers have not changed colour as such ....but their coats are definitely looking better even after only a week on the powder, and we have had an increase in milk too.  I am sure there would be definite changes if they were on it long term.

I do have one question though ....the powder does smell strong, and some goats are fussy.  I mixed mine with their sugar beet, but not everyone uses this, so the powder could get left at the bottom of the bucket by some clever goats!!! 

I just wondered if its possible to make it into a pellet form, and it may be easier to feed?
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on November 22, 2011, 01:28:50 pm
Bear in mind this was the first  'mix'..... the strong smell is salmon oil  which we are looking to replace with something less 'strong'.... so don't worry about that.

I must admit all my fussy ones eat the mix very freely .... they took about 2 weeks to settle.

We are pressing Denis Brinicombe very strongly to manufacture for a full year so that everybody will have a chance to make they own evaluations....... can I ask everybody who has had a sample to ring them today or tomorrow/ as soon as you can(!)   to repeat this request for a year in production.

Only with a weight of request ,  will this mix go into their New Products Range...  I know it works  but then I had the advantage of testing in the summer.

The phone number is   01363 775115  & ask for Kym
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Lesley Silvester on November 22, 2011, 09:00:27 pm
I too would like a longer trial.  I had three days worth so too soon to notice much difference.  What I did notice was that my young girl who is suckling her kid, had more milk on the two occasions I got there before him.  I will be letting them know.  Just thought I'd see how tonight's milking went one day after their last dose.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Brucklay on November 22, 2011, 09:01:53 pm
I'll call and put my bit in to support although we've had a slow start and my girls seem to be extra fussy and I have only been using a tiny bit as they won't eat their feed and as they are pregnant I don't want to rock the boat there - The billy is not so fussy so hoping for some signs soon (if he smelt more like the mineral that would be a +!!)
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Roxy on November 24, 2011, 01:15:57 pm
Have phoned and passed on my findings.  From my phone conversation, it does sound as if all testers gave a positive review of the minerals, which has to be good news.

Just got to wait and see now, and hope it goes on the market.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Brucklay on November 24, 2011, 02:56:39 pm
Thanks for the reminder Roxy - just called - and does sound hopeful - although as I said my girls are very fussy so only getting a tiny bit so not much to see but one of the wethers is certainly not scratching as much - he has a bit of a skin condition and I do believe it's helped him
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Lesley Silvester on November 24, 2011, 11:30:15 pm
Have now emailed in my findings which were good.  Just wish I'd had more than 3 days' supply to give a better idea.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: moody_mare on November 26, 2011, 09:25:33 pm
my samples arrived today and my girls gobbled up their starter dose this evening :-)  can't walt to see results.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: goosepimple on November 28, 2011, 05:57:08 pm
Well, I have finally got through the amount sent in the post on my 3 pygmy goaties.  They ate it without complaint.  I honestly can't say I've noticed anything different about them and I'm still searching because I want to find something.  Gave them all a good groom yesterday and they were all smiling as usual.  I'll keep looking though, maybe their teeth are whiter? ;)
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on November 29, 2011, 07:57:39 am
Goats in different areas will respond in various ways.... we have been astonished by some of the findings so far.

Not all will show outward signs... making it rather more difficult to assess.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Joseph on November 29, 2011, 10:38:18 am
Thank you for mine wytsend, it was a bit of a, struggle getting them to take it, but they did eventually. I can't really say objectively that I have or have not seen improvement, but thanks though.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Lesley Silvester on November 29, 2011, 12:34:18 pm
I noticed that my sulking goat was producing more at milking time while she was on the minerals.  Now she's gone back to hardly anything unless I catch her before Curry does.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on November 29, 2011, 03:56:51 pm
This proves beyond all doubt that your area is deficient in essential elements that your girls need.

Hopefully there will be some more produced in the next week orso.

Have you given your findings to Kym at Brinicombes.... if not could you ring her please... this is important extra info.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: reedos on November 29, 2011, 06:48:25 pm
I've been giving it to my two for over a week now. We think that Nicky has a more pronounced white stripe down her back and that the rest of her is perhaps a bit more "golden", Polly face markings seem more pronounced, but I'm going to have a look at some photo's for confirmation. The milk yield hasn't changed appreciably. They've eaten it happily enough mixed up with some soaked alfalfa pellets.

I've still got at least a weeks worth left I think so I'll report more fully when we are done ;D
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Lesley Silvester on November 30, 2011, 12:26:16 am
I noticed that my sulking goat was producing more at milking time while she was on the minerals.  Now she's gone back to hardly anything unless I catch her before Curry does.

I must learn to check what I write.  That was supposed to be suckling goat.  My goats don't sulk.  ;D  I emailed Kym but I haven't heard anything back so hope she did get my email.  Tonight I got just over a pint of milk so obviously beat Curry to it but when she was on the minerals I was get 1 1/2 pints and once, two pints so it did make a difference.  Would be interesting to try when Curry is weaned or gone.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Penninehillbilly on November 30, 2011, 02:46:21 pm
I noticed that my sulking goat was producing more at milking time while she was on the minerals.  Now she's gone back to hardly anything unless I catch her before Curry does.

I must learn to check what I write.  That was supposed to be suckling goat.  My goats don't sulk.  ;D  I emailed Kym but I haven't heard anything back so hope she did get my email.  Tonight I got just over a pint of milk so obviously beat Curry to it but when she was on the minerals I was get 1 1/2 pints and once, two pints so it did make a difference.  Would be interesting to try when Curry is weaned or gone.
(I just thought she was sulking because she wasn't getting her 'fix'  ;D
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Roxy on November 30, 2011, 03:23:08 pm
I just thought you had a sulky goat ......Bobby our billy sulks when the hay is not to his liking, so  goats do sulk ;D
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Lesley Silvester on November 30, 2011, 09:16:15 pm
No, Just dyslexic fingers.   ;D  I always nag my students about proof reading their work but then don't so it myself.  ;D
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Lesley Silvester on November 30, 2011, 09:17:30 pm
or even 'do it myself'  :-[
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: jaykay on November 30, 2011, 09:53:53 pm
Who does, on the internet/email  :-*
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: moody_mare on December 01, 2011, 11:01:46 pm
my girls have been having the mineral for a week now. my milking girl has increased her yield (ekk!), but she seems much better in her self. she is increasingly cheeky and is gaining a shine on her coat. tonight I also noted her udder is much softer! I  guess all this is the mineral? the non milkers have negligible differences.

how do we obtain more?
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on December 02, 2011, 07:03:34 am
You need to contact Kym Moore at Brinicombes regarding supplies.

This goes for everybody who has had samples... Kym is in charge, as it were !, of all communications regarding the goat minerals.

Ring or email her,  either way she will respond.

We are really thrilled at the responses received so far.... all appears positive.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: princesspiggy on December 05, 2011, 10:26:06 am
id be interested in trying a sample for my 5 bagots  :wave:
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: countrywoman on December 05, 2011, 12:09:36 pm
My sample arrived on Saturday.  I started my goats with a small pinch because they have been very picky about their food ever since I got them, which is only a couple of months ago.

Although the smell of the mix is quite strong, they both ate it without hesitation.  So I have gradually increased the amount at each feed.

Now looking to record any changes.  I thought my milker's flow was better this morning but I'll assess this more over the next few days.

So far, all going well!
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: countrywoman on December 12, 2011, 04:23:06 pm
Now I've had a chance to assess my two GGs over a reasonable period, I am sure the mineral mix has made a difference.  I have just reduced their feed because they have put on weight - previously they were often fussy about food and never finished a meal, now they lick the bucket clean so they have better appetite and find the mineral additive appealing.  Coats feel smoother and shinier. 

Although milk quantity hasn't increased the general attitude of my milker is calmer and her udder is softer.

I will send my findings to Brinicombs and hope this is available to buy soon!

Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on December 13, 2011, 09:57:15 am
Yes please, could you send your  'report' as soon as possible.... Managing Director of Brinicombes is very interested in all our findings.

Production of the mineral mix is looking better than 60/40 now.... probably in the New Year given how close we are to Christmas.

Everybody will be contacted with details of pricing & package sizes etc. in due course...... being positive !!!!
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Roxy on December 13, 2011, 10:28:38 am
Thats brilliant news Wytsend!!  Thank you for bringing this mineral to our attention, and working hard to get it into production :wave:
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: princesspiggy on December 13, 2011, 11:46:29 am
hi,
our goats have devoured the sample, mixed with their calf nuts with a bit of soya oil. the 2 kids werent too keen but the billy and preg nannies loved it.
id be happy to buy in the future if it comes available. i couldnt really tell any benefits in  a short of time, tho (maybe im imagining they looked a bit darker in colour)
id like to try it long term to see if their coat darkens up as their chocolate patches are almost blonde on the ends. it must smell good cos the mice nibbled a hole in packet.

just a question - as u cant feed fishmeal to cows/sheep, is it ok for goats? i was just wondering as iv had feed samples taken before by AH? and u cudnt disguise the smell!!

all good, so will contact the blokie soon xxx
thankyou
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on December 13, 2011, 01:37:01 pm
No fishmeal included..... it was salmon oil.... this is one that has been approved for use in bovine feeds.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Anke on December 13, 2011, 04:30:51 pm
No fishmeal included..... it was salmon oil.... this is one that has been approved for use in bovine feeds.

Why the fish oil? Goats wouldn't normally eat anything fishy?
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: princesspiggy on December 13, 2011, 06:19:36 pm
No fishmeal included..... it was salmon oil.... this is one that has been approved for use in bovine feeds.
sorry my mistake - tho i dont really know the difference ( ???)
is it like cod liver oil (without the cod) ? high in vitamins i expect.

please let me know when it becomes for sale.
thanx Wystend
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Lesley Silvester on December 14, 2011, 01:04:19 am
I always had trouble keeping my goat out of the hens' layers' pellets and was told that it was the fish in it that attracted her.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on December 14, 2011, 10:15:14 am
The only people who can answer why fish oil was included are the manufacturers Brinicombes..... I am sure Kym will be able to answer this question.

I left all the actually devising of the mix to the experts.... just supplied theinfor regarding the requirements of goats.!!!!!
Title: Re: Goat mineral... GOOD NEWS
Post by: wytsend on December 15, 2011, 10:13:14 am
Production has been given the go-ahead !!!!!!

Details to follow on pricing/sizing etc.,  but at least we will alll be able to have the benefit of the best thing to hit the goat world.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: countrywoman on December 15, 2011, 03:24:40 pm
Thank goodness!!  I will buy some as soon as I can.  Can't wait to get hold of some more - is it fair for goats to go 'cold turkey' over Christmas??

Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on December 15, 2011, 04:04:35 pm
They'll be fine !!!!!    We will be contacting everybody as soon as possible but with Christmas getting in the way, so to speak,  the New Year is the most probable.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: princesspiggy on December 15, 2011, 07:34:42 pm
im sure my nanny has a certain glow about her, her coat seems glossier too.
 :love: :wave:
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Lesley Silvester on December 15, 2011, 09:13:53 pm
 can't wait to get some.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Penninehillbilly on December 15, 2011, 10:22:23 pm
When I tried phoning it was an answer machine, maybe Kym's head was ringing with all the phone calls! emailed anyway, the girly who would eat the mineral has milked longer, and has a softer coat, the kid that was catching up to her sister sizewise is now losing ground again, roll on new year!
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: reedos on December 18, 2011, 04:16:07 pm
Our two finished their rations about 5 days ago.I'm going to e-mail Kym with what we think

They both ate it, which is a good start, whilst they are both pale creamyish kind of colours their "contrasting" colurs seemed more pronounced. Milk production has dropped off in the last couple of days. we aren't sure if that's a result of them being in kid, the decrease in temperatures or the effects of the mineral wearing off.



Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Lesley Silvester on December 19, 2011, 12:11:02 am
We want more minerals. 

We want more minerals.

WE WANT MORE MINERALS.

WE WANT MORE MINERALS.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on December 19, 2011, 07:31:52 am
Email Kym with this 'posting'.... she will probably put it straight on the Managing Direrctor's desk..... better  still,  RING HER !!!!!

The more people who contact, by tel., email, or just plain writing the better for us all.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: countrywoman on December 19, 2011, 10:33:50 am
We want more minerals. 

We want more minerals.

WE WANT MORE MINERALS.

WE WANT MORE MINERALS.

Couldn't put it better myself!!
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: Lesley Silvester on December 19, 2011, 03:37:24 pm
We want more minerals. 

We want more minerals.

WE WANT MORE MINERALS.

WE WANT MORE MINERALS.

Couldn't put it better myself!!

 ;D
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: trying on February 03, 2012, 11:27:46 am
Hi, where can I buy some of this, we have a small herd of Boer goats.
Regards Ann
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on February 03, 2012, 12:51:44 pm
Denis Brinicombe Group are the manufacturers.......I just advised them !!

Call Kym Moore on     01363 775115   .....she will arrange for it to be dispatched.


Depending on how many goats you have the prices are:

5kg bucket      £24.50
10kg                 42.50


If you have any further questions etc...............give me a call on 01647 231456 (evenings!)
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: moody_mare on February 03, 2012, 09:15:30 pm
My 5kg tub arrived this morning. Was so thankful. With this weather, I was worrying about my milker (goatling is the size of a whale!). Now feel happy knowing she is getting a good dose of minerals  ;D  Wytsend, thank you so much for making this available.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on February 04, 2012, 08:40:26 am
To everybody using the minerals.....Denis Brinicombe are very interested in your comments that might help us improve further.

If you send in a Testimonial... which we hope everybody will.... make sure you indicate if we can use it in publicity.

We also need as many pics as possible....' before and afters'  sort of thing !!!!!

Please tell as many of your goat keeping friends...... they might know about it but not ordered or just have not heard about the  'new product'.   The more people buy, then we can do so much for goats health.
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: moody_mare on February 10, 2012, 07:55:26 pm
Testimonial sent.  My horse seems to love the mineral too! He licks the bowl clean after the goats have finished.

Wytsend, when are you going to work on a horse mineral?  ;D

Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on February 10, 2012, 08:08:52 pm
Brinicombe's do one called Think Pink.... this was the start of the goat mineral !!!!!!

Ring Kym & she will arrange for some to be sent to you.  It is very very good... sorted out my  manic show jumper... he is almost normal !!!! that is saying an awful lot for Ernie !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: colliewoman on February 10, 2012, 09:17:40 pm
Well, my goats are back to eating their rations again, I had a real struggle to get them to eat it without at least a sprinkle whilst we were waiting for the production to go ahead.
Just as well really cos now we can see the beginnings of baby bellies ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

So a word of warning to those just trying it.......
DON'T RUN OUT! :goat: :goat: :goat: :goat:
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: moody_mare on February 10, 2012, 10:56:35 pm
Ohhhhh, so exciting to know. I will try some for dougal. He is quite mental too (bit too fit!).
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on February 11, 2012, 06:08:21 am
The simple answer is:    Tell all your goat friends & horse friends about these wonderful products and this will keep Brin icombes making it.

Make sure Kym knows it was me that recommended the Think Pink for horses otherwise I wont getmy commission..... need something to feed my girls !!!!!!
Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: moody_mare on February 11, 2012, 10:15:13 pm
Will do :-)

Title: Re: Goat mineral...
Post by: wytsend on February 12, 2012, 06:20:58 am
Can't guarantee it will work on every horse  but worth a try. 
My boy  was a 'messed up' warmblood who had learn't to avoid issues. 
His answer to jumping was to bolt,...  would not stand still to be mounted, viz.  behave like a spinning top almost literally !!, constantly winding himself into a complete dripping mess  !!!!
Other than my son, nobody else had managed to stay on him !!

Gradually after a month on the Think Pink, we found he was willing to discuss issues and work through it.

Now , he has been competing to 1.20m Affiliated classes, stands almost completely still and then is a 'dobbin' to hack out. 
Should mention that we have had him nearly three years so the improvement has not happened completely in the last 8 months but whatever he took in prior to the supplement, has now come forward probably because he is able to think straight.