The Accidental Smallholder Forum
Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: perkhar on October 05, 2015, 11:32:13 am
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Also just gave the sheep fasinex 5 wondering when I have to do it again how soon some one said to give it to them again in January time???? It gets quite wet up here in the Hebrides
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I found its best to check with your vets. Mine know what the local likelihood is of your sheep needing it.
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If it is a wet winter, yes I do give another dose of Fasinex in January/February time.
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So are you varying your choice at all or just tipping Fasinex down them? Why not use a different product?
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So are you varying your choice at all or just tipping Fasinex down them? Why not use a different product?
What else are you using that kills all three stages of fluke?
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You don't need a product that kills all stages of fluke at all times. In the Autumn - yes. How many sheep die of acute fluke with you in Feb? You are putting simply huge selection pressure for Triclabendazole resistance on the fluke population by not varying it.
It is analogous to saying I use Zolvix all the time because it kills all worms.
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Actually it is on advice from my vet, and only in wet (and not too cold) winters. NADIS website also states to use Triclabendazole in October and January.... and it has worked for me so far.
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So your sheep enterprise is wholly reliant on the continued efficacy of a single product. I've seen wet sheep land abandoned due to T. resistance and a lot of sheep die. Farms in these areas now have to manage without T. at all, does a "clear out" of potential T. resistant fluke with an alternative product make no sense to you at all?
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What you on about ME. . . . . . c'mon now. . . . it was the advice of a vet. :-J Must be right.
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Sorry PL must have missed the trump card - I am wrong and my ulterior motives/vested interests are laid bare - total reliance on a single product is a really good idea and we shouldn't even consider using the others.
As an aside - anyone lost cattle to acute fluke? Guessing not many. How many still give all their cattle fasinex anyway at all times of year? Why?
PL - pup has been named "Bryn Unig" (Du - Black so Brindle Bryn - Unig just the one)
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"Bryn Unig". . . . . . I like it :thumbsup:
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What other products can I use then? Other than the fasinex that combinex Carly's the same drug and these are the two I was recommended I have just bought the sheep and haven't given them anything other than the fasinex and a Crovect also due to do a heptavac p in the next week or two going to do it with someone else to share a bottle
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Flukiver (Closantel). Use the triclabendazole in autumn-Jan, and use closantel in late winter / spring (/ summer).
Avoid combination products unless you know that you have a need to worm as well at the time.
There is a short video made by the Flukiver manufacturers that details the lifecycle and what products to use when and why ... Michaela Strachan .. let me find the link ....
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Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH16Do2oIjs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH16Do2oIjs)
Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbrxMno1XBE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbrxMno1XBE)
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Thanks I'll have a wee watch just now
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Also Trodax, an oldie but a goodie
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Love it. If you can't trust Michaela Strachan who can you eh? (Never thought she'd sell out to Janssen Animal Health though :huff:)
Well thats me and Michaela vs the rest of the world :hug:.
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ME - I am due to fluke my ewes in the next wee while. They had Flukiver last time, I believe in Autumn, and nothing since then. Don't really feel they need worming, maybe the odd lamb, but not most. What would you suggest using?
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Fasinex!!
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I use Triclafas - it's the only TBZ that I could find in a 1litre bottle, which is handy if you only have a few sheep!
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But Fasinex 100 comes n a 0.8ltr bottle... ???, that's what I use.
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But Fasinex 100 comes n a 0.8ltr bottle... ???, that's what I use.
I use Triclafas - it's the only TBZ that I could find in a 1litre bottle, which is handy if you only have a few sheep!
Not so straight forward as TRICLAFAS is double the dose rate of FASINEX 100 1lt triclafas = 100 50 kg ewes , 0.8 lt fasinex 100 = 160 50 kg ewes
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The fasinex would go out of date before I managed to use it all up :). Plus price - Triclasfas @£20 compared to Fasinex 100 at £50?
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We last used rycoben for fluke and will be using combinex next time
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I lied, well forgot til I looked, we did a yellow straight wormer last and after speaking to warmer lady we bought fasimec duo s . She suggested this after we looked though the elanco guide, a handy leaflet, about seasons and they're suitable products. It fits the bill as the scops guide suggest s triclabendazole for this time of year and then we also having a good dosing for nematodes too via the ivermectin for the youngsters . It's a single dose, withdrawal of 27 days.
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Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH16Do2oIjs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH16Do2oIjs)
Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbrxMno1XBE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbrxMno1XBE)
Bookmark - Fluke lifecycle and dosing regime :)