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Title: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: john and helen on November 07, 2013, 02:12:59 pm
just watched this wonderful video of this great little tractor  :thumbsup:

guess who has just put a deposit on one  :innocent:  I told Helen its more of a need than a want  :innocent: :excited:

The Ferguson TEA 20 - BBC Perpetual Motion - Complete film (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qhi-V-Chbs#)
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: Bionic on November 07, 2013, 02:42:08 pm
The most important question though........ is it red?
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: Bodger on November 07, 2013, 04:16:18 pm
Red! :o  The T20 is affectionately known as the Grey Fergi :farmer:
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: Louise Gaunt on November 07, 2013, 04:43:19 pm
Best tractor ever! I learnt to drive on a T20!
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: Bionic on November 07, 2013, 04:52:15 pm
Can it be painted?   :roflanim: :roflanim:
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: Bodger on November 07, 2013, 05:22:29 pm
Only if you're prepared to suffer the fires of hell and damnation. :roflanim:
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: john and helen on November 07, 2013, 05:47:36 pm
it was a simple choice to make..i wanted a Red massy, but then, the little grey furgy  just captured my heart, and as Bodger said..it would mean suffering the fires of hell if i painted her Red…and i would get hate mail from all those grey furggy fans….so i will be contented with grey  :thumbsup:

maybe get a red back box  :innocent:  :excited:

and she will be called little grey as i have gone a little grey  :roflanim:

don't know if you noticed…i am getting a little excited now  :roflanim: :excited: :excited:
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: oor wullie on November 08, 2013, 08:32:31 am
I share your excitement and am a bit jealous!

I just bought a binder.  It needs new belts, I have nothing to tow it with and don't (yet) grow anything that needs cut and tied into sheafs but that doesn't get in the way of being excited.
Red 35, grey fergie or blue dexta are all words which bring a smile to my face and start me dreaming about which one I would most like to have (and I am coming to the conclusion that I am going to need more than one tractor).

I hope it brings much joy and you have a long and happy future with your fergie!
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: Bionic on November 08, 2013, 09:23:36 am
John, any idea of a moving date yet?
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: john and helen on November 08, 2013, 10:05:20 am
Thanks our wullie

Hi Sally  :wave:

not yet… france is now done and dusted  :thumbsup: Exeter is almost done  :fc:

once Exeter is complete, the money will go straight to complete the smallholding…should be about 3 weeks ,
its that horrible time of, what do i buy now! .. i hate to tempt fate..

i have found a cracking static caravan …but don't want to buy it yet just in case…
also found a 20ft sea container..same again, i have put a small deposit on the tractor, and they are more than happy with that……

the guy i am buying off is wonderful, he has been a real help, he has the surveyor going out this week to mark the boundaries, so no disputes can happen,  not that i think there would be, but better safe than sorry

we just want to get in now and start making our new life,
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: Victorian Farmer on November 08, 2013, 10:39:10 am
Well done you will love it .I have a modern tractor and a fordson majar .when things go dawn hill wether I use the ford.I put a supper sir under the tarporling and warm her up I then leave running all day .The reno pipes freeze and the service light comes on then its in limp mode.
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: Bodger on November 08, 2013, 02:45:48 pm
I got this one for nothing last year.
 
My friend Dave and I rescued it from the deepest jungle of a garden and towed it home with Daves Grey Fergi on a fixed towing bar.
 

(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb334/kcooper2011/farmyard1445.jpg)
 

I sat on the non existent seat and was the steersmen. The journey brought tears to my eyes I can tell you !  :innocent:
 

(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb334/kcooper2011/farmyard1443.jpg)
 

Half way home, the tyre came off the rusty rim. That was fun, but we were nearly home and we just carried on.  ::)
 

(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb334/kcooper2011/farmyard1444.jpg)
 

Once we'd got it home, we spent the next few days scrapping it, we got all the useful bits off it and the remainder went go off to the scrapyard. I love a bargain, as I said, we got it for nowt. :nwink:
 
The bits that we gleaned have been very useful in keeping my own Fergi on the road, or should that be in the field?
Here she is, my pride and joy.
 

(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb334/kcooper2011/farmyard1169.jpg)
 

(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb334/kcooper2011/farmyard1167.jpg)
 

(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb334/kcooper2011/farmyard1168.jpg)
 

Now if I could just get that super deal with a cricket club beginning with 'A'  :excited:
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: stufe35 on November 08, 2013, 05:05:44 pm
So is yours a TED, TEA, or TEF ?

Stu
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: stufe35 on November 08, 2013, 05:35:01 pm
Mine has a red tool box !
Seen here with a genuine ferguson 3 ton trailer collecting brash from the recently laid hedge.
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: john and helen on November 08, 2013, 07:00:55 pm
that looks lovely Bodger,

what topper or mower do you people use? being only 20 ish HP , I have noticed most toppers say 30HP or more
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: Bodger on November 08, 2013, 08:19:26 pm
What they call a finger mower.
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: stufe35 on November 08, 2013, 08:22:15 pm
John,  your t20 will drive a topper no problem,  I've seen them with 6ft ones on the back, but my view is that 5ft is the ideal size,  they can handle the weight (not too light on the front end) and they are about the same width as the tractor, meaning you can fit through quite tight gaps between trees.  Any narrower you cannot get to the edge of things because your wheels are wider than the mower.  With t20s you have 3 functional issues to deal with.
1. The pto shaft is smaller than standard.  There are a number of ways to over come this, give me a shout if you are not aware.
2. The pto is live drive,  difficult to explain what this means,  there is a thread in equipment about this,  basically can be made better by the fitting of an over run adaptor.
3. The hydraulics have only depth control, not position control as on later models eg the 35.  This means you cannot hold the topper at the right height with the hydraulic controls,  again. There are a number of options to solve this issue.

I don't know if you know this stuff,  if you need further info just let me know.

Cheers. Stu

Ps our ted 20. Is affectionately called 'Rusty' for obvious reasons !  Our 35. Is called Herbie Fergie named by me when I was 11..... I'm now 45 !!!     So what's yours going to be called ?
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: john and helen on November 08, 2013, 09:49:12 pm
 :thumbsup: Stu, thats a fantastic answer, and no!!! i didn't know about those things
the tractor will be called little grey :) or LG (elgee) for short ..we men have to name our tractors

I have actually found a 5ft topper that is recommended for 20-35HP

very interested about the PTO adaption,  and the over run

Thanks Stu, very much appreciated  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: john and helen on November 08, 2013, 09:50:59 pm
and thank you Bodger  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: Bodger on November 09, 2013, 07:24:28 am
I saw this and thought of you. :farmer:
 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FERGUSON-TE20-T20-GREY-FERGIE-FULL-WORKSHOP-MANUAL-INFO-MORE-ON-CD-PDF-Files-/301006329332 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FERGUSON-TE20-T20-GREY-FERGIE-FULL-WORKSHOP-MANUAL-INFO-MORE-ON-CD-PDF-Files-/301006329332)
 
It should be exactly what you need.
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: stufe35 on November 09, 2013, 09:09:26 am
John,

Can you tell me wether the tractor you've bought is petrol, petrol/TVO or diesel, I ll try and copybyou a relevant users manual. 
Ill sort some more info on the pto stuff early next week.
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: john and helen on November 09, 2013, 10:52:00 am
Mine is diesel Stu

that would be great mate
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: brickyard on November 09, 2013, 11:39:53 am
Hi, I've got a TEA 20 and it is fine with a 5ft Fleming topper behind it, was advised that the 6ft would be a bit big, the fergie is better around the orchard with the topper on than the bigger Ford 4000.
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: stufe35 on November 09, 2013, 01:37:44 pm
Brickyard,

How do you control the operating height ?

Cheer. Stu
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: john and helen on November 09, 2013, 02:19:32 pm
This is the one i have been looking at ..5ft

http://www.masterfarm.co.uk/grass_toppers.html (http://www.masterfarm.co.uk/grass_toppers.html)
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: brickyard on November 10, 2013, 12:57:20 am
Stu, for my orchard with the fleming it's fine with just letting the skids run on the floor, the ground is fairly flat so either up or down is ok. An overrun clutch is useful but I have run without it. If I need to top anywhere that's difficult with lots of control needed then I use another tractor I'm afraid, I've got the Ford or a IH 454.
 I have a modern size pto shaft fitted to the fergie now, about £80 from agriline I think.
 I know it wasn't the question but for a smallholding I think the Fergie is a bit too limiting to have as the only tractor. Possible but not the easiest.  I make hay so have a drum mower and baler, the Fergie could not power them.
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: Backinwellies on November 10, 2013, 07:42:53 am
 :wave:  Getting excited for you!   Love Grey Fergies too but no good on our wet slopes.   
Have you got the barb-b fired up yet? (make sure it is water proof!)
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: john and helen on November 10, 2013, 09:01:22 am
Don't you worry about the BBQ  :roflanim:

we will make sure, once we are settled in , the BBQ area will be sorted  :thumbsup:

ref the Fergie, I will only have a 3 acre paddock, which i will split into two, and a entrance paddock of about 1/2 acre
the rest is woodland of about 1 .1/2  acres. this is one reason why i like the little grey so much..its not a massive place, and i will stick a gravel track through the paddocks so i will have easy access to the veg plot

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee62/johningham/8d97f24d-1641-4257-9be9-a424e626202c_zps36d5738f.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/johningham/media/8d97f24d-1641-4257-9be9-a424e626202c_zps36d5738f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: stufe35 on November 26, 2013, 05:00:42 pm
John & Helen,

I am still working on the info for you,  taking a bit more putting together than I thought, and have decided to to a good job so the info will be there for any one else.

The diesel is a TEF.  Petrols were TEA,  Petrol/Parafin TED.

The only exception is the a kit was brought out to retro fit a Perkins P3 diesel engine to the TEA model when diesel became a cheaper fuel. So yours could be one of these, though they are relatively rare- and easily identified as the bonnet line is higher to accommodate the taller engine.

Have you got a pic of yours we can see ?
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: Bodger on November 26, 2013, 07:26:29 pm
This was delivered yesterday. :farmer:
 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FERGUSON-TE20-VINTAGE-TRACTOR-PLOUGH-MUG-FERGY-FERGIE-/400161375932?pt=UK_Car_Parts_Vehicles_Automobila_ET&hash=item5d2b7a06bc (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FERGUSON-TE20-VINTAGE-TRACTOR-PLOUGH-MUG-FERGY-FERGIE-/400161375932?pt=UK_Car_Parts_Vehicles_Automobila_ET&hash=item5d2b7a06bc)
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: john and helen on November 26, 2013, 07:36:37 pm
 :wave:

just to keep up to speed, I have sent stu a PM … the farmer who i am buying the plot off has offered me a ford 4000 for silly money, as i explained to stu, my heart is saying massy, my head is saying Ford… i have spoken with the dealer with the massy, and he has said, i can put my deposit towards any implement i.e. topper, back box etc etc , so i haven't lost out


i am coming unto carmarthen on thursday, so i will have a look at the Ford…. also got to go and sign the papers on the house we are selling on friday..once that is through, and the money is in the bank..we can then dot the I's and cross the T's on the new place  :fc:

the one we are selling, has had its moments… :roflanim: The buyers solicitor asked us where the Planning permission was for the extension, I pointed out that the extension was there when we bought it…
he then said, because it was a Ex council house, there could be a problem……the council apparently , don't allow extensions..and unless we produce the PP we would need to get indemnity insurance ??

i told him, if that was the case, he had better check the original paperwork when HE DID THE PURCHASE FOR US 8 YEARS AGO …….  :innocent:  funny how things have moved on very quickly from then on  ;D
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: john and helen on November 26, 2013, 07:39:11 pm
This was delivered yesterday. :farmer:
 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FERGUSON-TE20-VINTAGE-TRACTOR-PLOUGH-MUG-FERGY-FERGIE-/400161375932?pt=UK_Car_Parts_Vehicles_Automobila_ET&hash=item5d2b7a06bc (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FERGUSON-TE20-VINTAGE-TRACTOR-PLOUGH-MUG-FERGY-FERGIE-/400161375932?pt=UK_Car_Parts_Vehicles_Automobila_ET&hash=item5d2b7a06bc)


AGHHHHHH Bodger..stop tugging on my heart strings  :roflanim: :roflanim: you swine  :roflanim:
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: stufe35 on November 26, 2013, 07:42:36 pm
I have the solution.....2 tractors. One each !  ,  ......come on you know it makes sense.
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: john and helen on November 26, 2013, 07:46:57 pm
So this one for me
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee62/johningham/ford1_zps11dea1b0.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/johningham/media/ford1_zps11dea1b0.jpg.html)

and this one for helen  ;D

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee62/johningham/ford_zps4fc95849.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/johningham/media/ford_zps4fc95849.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: Lesley Silvester on November 26, 2013, 10:44:49 pm
 :roflanim: :roflanim:
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: Bodger on November 26, 2013, 11:07:24 pm
I had mushroom soup in mine this afternoon. It was definitely grey. The soup, I mean. :innocent:
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: john and helen on November 27, 2013, 08:11:27 am
 :roflanim: :roflanim: Nice one Bodger  :roflanim:

a massive thanks to Stu for the Email, ..Top Man  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: tizaala on November 28, 2013, 08:08:50 am
Our locals have a Tractor run every year for charity , they came down our track this year- some lovely oldies..
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: tizaala on November 28, 2013, 08:18:17 am
And a few more ...
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: Lesley Silvester on November 28, 2013, 10:22:23 pm
You shouldn't have done that, Tiz. Now John's gong to want one of each.  :roflanim:
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: stufe35 on November 28, 2013, 11:37:03 pm
Nay two of each
Title: Re: Massy ferguson T20
Post by: Bodger on November 29, 2013, 05:26:06 am
Here's the first tractor that we bought when we moved here back in 1988. :horse:  The little tot stroking the horse, is now my 27 year old daughter.
 
Meet Misty, pedigree name Rhyd y Groes Misty Maid.
 
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m180/kcooper2006/horses/a26-1.jpg)