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Pets & Working Animals => Dogs => Topic started by: Castle Farm on June 18, 2013, 03:44:55 pm

Title: Border Collie pups. Born yesterday.
Post by: Castle Farm on June 18, 2013, 03:44:55 pm



Mist and her new litter of working collie pups.
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Post by: Alistair on June 18, 2013, 04:57:10 pm
Where be thy picture for my delictation?
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Post by: Backinwellies on June 18, 2013, 05:15:58 pm
invisible pups ...... worth a lot of money .......... sheep wont see them coming!!!
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Post by: FiB on June 18, 2013, 08:34:25 pm
invisible pups ...... worth a lot of money .......... sheep wont see them coming!!!
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Neighbour brought jis dog around - my lambs to make friends with it!!!  All confused!
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Post by: Castle Farm on June 19, 2013, 09:52:51 pm
Sorry guys the photo didn't load.

Pictures on my facebook page under utilitypoultrykeepers.
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Post by: doganjo on June 19, 2013, 10:12:11 pm
Here you are
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Post by: Redtiftaf on June 19, 2013, 10:58:49 pm
Aww.  really cute.  Are there three  in the picture
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Post by: Castle Farm on June 20, 2013, 07:52:47 am
Thanks doganjo.

Yes 3 in the photo. She had 4.

Already thinking about training one on, but OH said no way.


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Post by: ZaktheLad on June 20, 2013, 08:48:17 am
 :love: :love:
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Post by: plumseverywhere on June 20, 2013, 09:03:55 am
Beautiful  :)
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Post by: Castle Farm on July 15, 2013, 01:35:24 pm
http://s62.photobucket.com/user/castlefarmpoultry/media/100_1277_zpsf4eeb3ef.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0 (http://s62.photobucket.com/user/castlefarmpoultry/media/100_1277_zpsf4eeb3ef.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0)

Pups now 3 weeks old.

1 week later and the pups now at 4 weeks old today and are in the stables and mummy has had enough and never goes near them.

I have them on Lactol puppy milk and it's very expencive £12 85, 1 kg. They are on 4 feeds a day and growing fast and going through over 1 kg a week.

Is there any quality  feed , besides puppy kibbles (Burns) in the way of milk that will work out cheaper?

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Post by: Old Shep on July 15, 2013, 04:33:00 pm
They are beautiful!  I don't think you can skimp on milk/food in these early stages - its so vital.  I'd be tempted to give them little minced chicken which may be easier to eat than kibble.
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Post by: plumseverywhere on July 15, 2013, 04:35:18 pm
Is goats milk a suitable alternative for the breed/age?  I know its slightly different but our pup (now 11 months) has fresh milk from the goat once a day (he is older though obviously!)
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Post by: doganjo on July 15, 2013, 10:23:29 pm
They should only be getting milk as one of their five daily feeds at 4 weeks.  They need plenmty protein and nutrients at that age.  I use cobbydog from 3 weeks (weaning) to 9 months, then they can go on adult food,  and goats milk is better than cows milk.  Other than that just water is all they need to drink.  They don't need porridge, custard, scrambled eggs, weetabix or any of the stuff we used to feed puppies.
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Post by: doganjo on July 15, 2013, 10:27:29 pm
Kibble is fine - it is small in puppy/junior food.  It is properly formulated for pups with everything in it that they need.  You can soak it in warm water at 2/3 weeks to start them off but by 4 weeks they don't really need that and have teeth enough to crunch it.
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Post by: funkyfish on July 15, 2013, 10:30:39 pm
Anything other than puppy milk may upset their tums as will changing brands. They should not be costing you too much as they should be having the milk phased out and be on solids only in 2-3 weeks anyway.

Good quality food promotes brain development and so widens their capacity to learn when older.

Neutrition is essential to a dog in its first year for so many reasons including joint health and temperament and train ability.

I'd get them off milk asap so by 5 weeks they r on solids.

You will  now also be in charge of socialising them. So carry them around and get them used to noises and having lots of people handle them etc.
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Post by: happygolucky on July 16, 2013, 10:33:55 am
I also start to wean pups at 3 weeks soaking some cobby dog puppy kibble in water, I use hot water but then cool it with goats milk as the kibble softens quicker with hot water.....then slowly they will want it less sloppy, Cobby dog is for working dogs so VAT free and cheaper, around £20....they love their goats milk and pups will need a feed every 4 hours, they usually correspond to our meal times, and as they grow they will not need a night feed, last meal at supper time......I love having the little doggies around, so much fun!
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Post by: Moobli on July 16, 2013, 10:49:34 am
I would agree with what has already been said.  Nutrition in young pups is so important.  I would continue to give them multimilk as one  meal a day but work at weaning them on to solids over the next couple of weeks.


Any new piccies  ;D
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Post by: Castle Farm on July 16, 2013, 12:52:14 pm
I have re-ordered more Lactol and they now are on Lactol,Cod-liver oil and raw egg. With kibbles and fresh water in a seperate bowl.

(http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/castlefarmpoultry/100_1287_zpsd2ce0053.jpg?t=1373989308)


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Post by: Castle Farm on July 16, 2013, 04:46:19 pm
(http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/castlefarmpoultry/100_1280_zps3e4b907f.jpg?t=1373989148)


This is Art,
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Post by: plumseverywhere on July 16, 2013, 05:05:29 pm
Will they all be working dogs, CF? is there an age where you decide who makes the grade and who (if any) are destined to be non-working?
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Post by: Moobli on July 16, 2013, 05:10:25 pm
Oh how cute are they!  :love:   Will they be registered?
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Post by: happygolucky on July 16, 2013, 11:46:10 pm
They look beautiful and so healthy, when we have pups I find they love their goats milk