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tommytink

  • Joined Aug 2018
Getting weight on tups
« on: December 26, 2022, 03:56:33 pm »
I had a new tup this year, an older boy, and heís got very thin. He wasnít massive when he came, certainly not as well-covered as our previous boy, and I think he struggled to adjust as heíd spent his whole life in one other place that is bigger than ours. He looked a bit depressed, didnít graze much, but perked up when he went with the girls. Since his return he has looked happier and seems more settled, however he feels pretty thin. Heís on crap ground as itís that time of year but loves his hay, and he has been getting some lamb creep although not on a regular basis.
Heís in with three tup lambs which are in the condition Iíd expect them to be. Itís just the big one.
What else can I supplement him with to try and apply some weight? Should I feed him a lot more lamb creep? Iíve only been giving it as a treat, every few days or when the weatherís been bad. Or is there something else?
His teeth are fine and donít think he has a worm issue. Iím going to give him a vitamin dose but appreciate thatís not going to fix it.

Fleecewife

  • Joined May 2010
  • South Lanarkshire
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Re: Getting weight on tups
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2022, 04:07:41 pm »
Why Lamb Creep?  Give him a tup coarse mix to get his strength back.


You say he's older; how old exactly?  Could it be Johne's disease (Paratuberculosis)? Consult a vet for differential diagnosis.
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shep53

  • Joined Jan 2011
  • Dumfries & Galloway
Re: Getting weight on tups
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2022, 06:12:59 pm »
You've asked the correct questions ,so you just need a little reassurance  ,how do you know worms /fluke are not a problem ?? when the vets are back to normal ,separate him and collect some faeces for a fec  and take in to vets ,ask for fluke eggs  ( liver  / rumen ) then you will know for sure .  Find a coarse mix or roll /nut suitable for rams ( probably cheaper than lamb creep ) and start feeding him every day ,start small amounts  and gradually increase .  A ram which is lean at the start of tupping can loose condition quickly  ,if he fails to recover  then you need the vet to look at other reasons

tommytink

  • Joined Aug 2018
Re: Getting weight on tups
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2022, 06:56:58 pm »
He was wormed when he arrived in August and fluked end of Oct. He isnít showing any signs of worms but appreciate there arenít always physical symptoms.

I feel he struggled to adjust when he came here from a ďproperĒ farm to a much smaller place. He paced around a lot and didnít seem to eat much. He seemed stressed. He is around five. Born 2018. He was happier with the ewes on the larger winter field. Back here the fields are smaller but he is improved on how he was previously, and does interact with the little boys.

I will have a look for a good mix to give him. I have had something they called ďshow mixĒ in our local co-op before but at this time of year they donít seem to stock it. The other local farm place just did a feed suitable for mixed animals.

Anke

  • Joined Dec 2009
  • St Boswells, Scottish Borders
Re: Getting weight on tups
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2022, 07:30:49 am »
If you are planning on using him next year as well, I would definitely get him tested for Johne's (initial blood test), especially as you did not breed him and the stress of moving to your place may well have turned him positive....


If he was just on a one year job contract, I would not mess around and have him off the holding asap, though it may then be useful to have a faecal Johne's test done in case he was not just positive but shedding as well, in which case you may have introduced the disease to your flock by now.

twizzel

  • Joined Apr 2012
Re: Getting weight on tups
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2022, 09:35:57 am »
As above Iíd get the vet involved, have them out to do a full work up. Test for johnes and MV and mineral deficiency and see what else they suggest.

Bywaters

  • Joined Apr 2016
Re: Getting weight on tups
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2022, 07:04:24 pm »
not sure what breed, but in my experience, once they get to that age, it is difficult to get them to put on weight esp this time of year without a decent bit of extra.
See what the vet says, but I would be giving him at least a pound of tup mix per day and more if he wants it - esp if you want to use him next year
They will need some decent rations to offset the horrible weather  we are having

Hopefully, an idea there

 

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