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doganjo

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Angry bird
« on: June 30, 2021, 08:50:15 am »
I have two bantam Wyandottes and two standards.  In the last few months one of the bantams has been broody off an on - I move her out of the coop when I realise she's not outside but can't keep her out as the others need access to lay.

In the last couple of days one of the standards has started having a go at one of the bantams - no idea if it's the same one as they are identical.  It's driving my dogs mental - they stand there and howl at them, or run up and down along the fence barking.

If I turn the hose on the hens, the standard goes away and eats but it's almost like she's trying to stop the other one eating so I've been spreading the food around, although I don't like doing that for encouraging wild birds and vermin.  She hasn't drawn blood and isn't pecking hard enough for that - it's more wing fluttering and posturing with a wee bit of a peck at each other

Any thoughts on what might be causing it?  It's been pretty warm here last few days - is it just that?  They all seem very healthy, no lumps and bumps, all eating and drinking normally, recently wormed etc etc

I've kept hens for about 25 years, but this is a bit strange
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doganjo

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Re: Angry bird
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2021, 09:51:19 am »
it just escalated - blood on her comb and an eye partially shut.  Bathed with cool boiled water and savlon applied to the worst bits. Gave her food and water and left her in the inside run.  So if any of the others lay in the outside run I'll just have to get there before the crows do.  Then when dusk comes they'll all be inside their coop.
Nothing else I can do for now
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chrismahon

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Re: Angry bird
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2021, 09:54:53 am »
Perhaps she's going broody and warning the others to stay away?

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Re: Angry bird
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2021, 10:06:08 am »
She's only going for the wee bantam.  And it doesn't look like the bantam has done any damage to her.
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Scarlet.Dragon

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Re: Angry bird
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2021, 10:58:05 am »
Can you separate the bully rather than the victim?  Maybe a large dog crate that you can move around for her to have fresh grass under her but not able to get to the others.  If the others are happy enough together it'll maybe take her down a peg or two in the pecking order when you release her again in a few days time.
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Re: Angry bird
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2021, 05:51:32 pm »
I wondered about that. She's not bullying the others though, would that still work?  At the moment they all right next to each other separated by a weldmesh panel.  They'll all have to sleep together though. I don't have anything small enough to fit in the coop door to put the bully in.
It's a two storey rabbit hutch so I could put her on the top level and take the step ladder away, but I suspect she'd just jump down
« Last Edit: June 30, 2021, 05:53:29 pm by doganjo »
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vegpatch

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Re: Angry bird
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2021, 08:02:53 pm »
Is the bird being bullied broody at the moment, or has recently been broody?  We notice that a broody bird is often targetted by one or two of our hens who are quite far down the pecking order - and they will do this when the broody is normally dominant to them. 

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Re: Angry bird
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2021, 08:15:43 pm »
I don't know is the short answer - one of the bantams has been broody but they are identical so I don't know which one it was.  It's one of the big standard Wyandottes that's bullying a bantam.

They've been wandering around on either side of the fence all day without a cross word, so we'll see what night time brings.  Nothing I can do when they are all in the coop
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Richmond

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Re: Angry bird
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2021, 09:14:09 am »
There may be an underlying illness/weakness in the bantam not yet detected by you - birds need to be quite ill before humans notice something amiss. The dominant hen is driving her away to protect the integrity of the flock.
You say the bantam has been broody "on and off". Properly broody or just staying in the nest box a lot? 

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Re: Angry bird
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2021, 12:44:26 pm »
I've switched them round today.  The two bantams are in the outer run and the bully in the inner one.  I have no idea which bantam was broody. They really are identical.  All birds are active, eating, drinking, poking around.  No sign of an illness.  They are all about 1 year old.
 
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Re: Angry bird
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2021, 12:39:21 pm »
Touching wood and fingers crossed, but it is still peaceful today, and all are together.  All of them seem to be giving the bantam a wide berth so maybe she was the instigator - I think she's the only one that's laying just now becasue when the big hen was in the main run and she was out with the other two there was one egg in a corner of the outside run. and when she was in the main run by herself there was one egg too.
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