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Zara

  • Joined May 2011
Who initiates the eAML
« on: April 03, 2012, 07:18:35 pm »
Hi everyone
My weaners are going on Thursday. The buyers are coming to collect them...Who needs to prepare the AML online? I think it  is the buyer as they will be collecting them. But I would like to be sure!
As always
Thanks

robert waddell

  • Guest
Re: Who initiates the eAML
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2012, 07:26:44 pm »
no it is you the seller :farmer:

Zara

  • Joined May 2011
Re: Who initiates the eAML
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2012, 07:32:14 pm »
I obviously assumed wrong. I am  glad I checked and many thanks for your reply!

Horse & Farm

  • Joined Dec 2011
  • North Cumbria
Re: Who initiates the eAML
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2012, 08:03:03 pm »
Try and make sure they have registered on the AML system as i had a problem on sunday, my buyers hadn't registered on the system.

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rockstar

  • Joined Jan 2012
  • powys
Re: Who initiates the eAML
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2012, 09:05:03 pm »
hi robert waddell can you help please. i am buying 2 gos weaners in may is it correct that i only need to give seller my holding number or do i need a stock/pig number,i am going to fatten them up for pork.

robert waddell

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Re: Who initiates the eAML
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2012, 09:17:08 pm »
in Scotland you need to give all relevant information including your herd number :farmer:

rockstar

  • Joined Jan 2012
  • powys
Re: Who initiates the eAML
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2012, 09:22:20 pm »
thanks robert does same thing apply in wales

Tudful Tamworths

  • Joined Aug 2009
    • Liz's website
Re: Who initiates the eAML
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2012, 10:07:08 pm »
Yes, you still need to give your herd number.
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oaklandspigs

  • Joined Nov 2009
  • East Sussex
    • OaklandsPigs
Re: Who initiates the eAML
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2012, 01:37:43 pm »
For England & Wales (and probably Scotland as well)

1. Agree that buyers should register in the system first, whilst technically the seller can register them , this has created issues in tying up previosuly, and I don't trust the database to match it all up.

2. The buyer needs to give the seller two bits of info for them to find them in the system.  However the system doesn't seem to always find them, so we are asking for address, postcode, holding no, herd no. from our customers.

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BadgerFace

  • Joined Jan 2009
  • Sussex
Re: Who initiates the eAML
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2012, 01:57:23 pm »
Anyone tried to move on a temporary mark. I've looked for somewhere to enter "blue spot between shoulders" or similar, but system keeps asking for slap mark no.  ???
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suziequeue

  • Joined Feb 2010
  • Llanidloes; Powys
Re: Who initiates the eAML
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2012, 02:08:46 pm »
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thanks robert does same thing apply in wales

We live in Wales and bought two weaners on Sunday from Wales. .

We were registered on the system but did it ages ago and hadn't quite finished all the details.... so I did that as soon as I got home.

Anyway - the seller initiated the eAML and got a movement reference which is really KEY.

Then, once the piggies had moved off her premises and I had completed my registration, she completed her end and it came through to us and I just ticked the boxes to say when we received them, how many, how many DOA etc.

Pressed button. No probs. Helpline were really helpful but they were a bit snowed under at the beginning of the week.

All went through fine
« Last Edit: April 04, 2012, 02:10:35 pm by suziequeue »
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suziequeue

  • Joined Feb 2010
  • Llanidloes; Powys
Re: Who initiates the eAML
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2012, 02:16:49 pm »
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Anyone tried to move on a temporary mark. I've looked for somewhere to enter "blue spot between shoulders" or similar, but system keeps asking for slap mark no.

The slapmark is just the herd number. So - on the eAML form the "Identification mark"  and the "slap mark" fields are our supplier's herd number even though the weaners haven't been marked with that mark..... they've just got dots sprayed on their bums.

When we move them to slaughter we will move them under our slap mark

I cna only speak from my experience though.....
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Bionic

  • Joined Dec 2010
  • Talley, Carmarthenshire
Re: Who initiates the eAML
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2012, 02:24:58 pm »
Rockstar,
You were asking about pig herd number. I spoke to Animal Health in Carmarthen on the same subject yesterday.

You need a pig herd number before you get your pigs but if you haven't already got a herd number they won't give you a number until 1-2 weeks before your piggies are due.

Apparently for a sheep flock number you can't register these until the sheep are on your land. 

Wouldn't it be easier if they used the same rules?.

If you want to phone AH to discuss their number is 01267 245400
The person I spoke to was Hefina Evans.

Hope this helps
Sally
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SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • Cornwall
  • Rarely short of an opinion but I mean well
    • Trelay Cohousing Community
Re: Who initiates the eAML
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2012, 03:08:12 pm »
Anyone tried to move on a temporary mark. I've looked for somewhere to enter "blue spot between shoulders" or similar, but system keeps asking for slap mark no.  ???
Just type it in
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suziequeue

  • Joined Feb 2010
  • Llanidloes; Powys
Re: Who initiates the eAML
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2012, 03:59:50 pm »
eAML are helpful - 0844 335 8400
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