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harmony

  • Joined Feb 2012
Re: Saddleback x Wild Boar
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2021, 05:20:32 pm »
@arobwk I'm not sure what you mean about stepped profile? The standard of excellence says medium length for the face and very slightly dished. Maybe that's what you mean about stepped. I'm not sure whether they have muddy legs on the picture but pedigree saddlebacks should have white front legs, a continuation of the white saddle.


Those in the picture could easily be saddlebacks that didn't make the pedigree grade. I have seen saddlebacks without a saddle despite the fact parents were both pedigree.

arobwk

  • Joined Nov 2015
  • Kernow: otherwise known as Covid Central (actually that's probably Devon),
Re: Saddleback x Wild Boar
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2021, 07:58:58 pm »
@arobwk I'm not sure what you mean about stepped profile? The standard of excellence says medium length for the face and very slightly dished. Maybe that's what you mean about stepped. I'm not sure whether they have muddy legs on the picture but pedigree saddlebacks should have white front legs, a continuation of the white saddle.


Those in the picture could easily be saddlebacks that didn't make the pedigree grade. I have seen saddlebacks without a saddle despite the fact parents were both pedigree.

@harmony I guess what I meant by "stepped" was something that looks like a "forehead".  However, prompted by your comments above, I have checked out wild boar pics ont' web and note that many do have "foreheads" so profile between ear and snout not a reliable measure of wb-ishness afterall. 
Equally Saddlebacks seem to have more of a "forehead" according to age. 
However, I attach a pic of what I believe to be a young "English" Saddleback and I reckon it looks quite different to Crypto's piggies (at least the two on the right).

harmony

  • Joined Feb 2012
Re: Saddleback x Wild Boar
« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2021, 09:12:19 pm »
@arobwk I'm not disputing whether there is wild boar in these pigs. The original poster presumably saw the parents. I'm just saying I don't see wild boar in them and I think that's a good thing. I see pigs that could be saddleback rejects or saddleback crosses. Personally I don't like long snouts in saddlebacks but I have seen plenty. You can get very different heads in different litters.


In a show ring against saddlebacks they would stand out a mile. Even the one on the left, whose ears aren't correct. The other two would be disqualified for the black front legs.



I think the op should be pleased with his purchase and that they have inherited saddleback traits not wild boar ones.

arobwk

  • Joined Nov 2015
  • Kernow: otherwise known as Covid Central (actually that's probably Devon),
Re: Saddleback x Wild Boar
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2021, 04:22:26 pm »
Of course, @harmony, my assessment is based on "show-quality" SBs so, as regards varying conformation, I bow to your experience. 
« Last Edit: September 17, 2021, 04:26:55 pm by arobwk »

harmony

  • Joined Feb 2012
Re: Saddleback x Wild Boar
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2021, 04:41:53 pm »
@arobwk they vary in the showring too! My friend who bred saddlebacks said I had a much easier time than him as I have lops and all I was looking for was a white pig not one with colours in the right place!


We all see different things in the same animal. It's what makes watching show classes interesting.




 

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