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lachlanandmarcus

  • Joined Aug 2010
  • Aberdeenshire
Mowing hay today....
« on: July 25, 2012, 10:25:33 am »

smithycraft

  • Joined Apr 2012
Re: Mowing hay today....
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2012, 10:58:25 am »
We were so tempted to cut ours today but we've decided to hold off.  Hope we made the right choice.  Good luck with yours.

FiB

  • Joined Sep 2011
  • Bala, North Wales
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Re: Mowing hay today....
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2012, 04:25:37 pm »
It's a fine sight - Good luck  :fc: :fc: :fc: :fc:

Sudanpan

  • Joined Jan 2009
  • West Cornwall
    • Movement is Life
Re: Mowing hay today....
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2012, 09:41:56 pm »
Much MUCH neater than my effort....
 :wave:

Sudanpan

  • Joined Jan 2009
  • West Cornwall
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Re: Mowing hay today....
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2012, 08:47:43 pm »
Well we've been through the hoops with our first attempt at hay making this year.


We bought an old international harvester finger cutter - probably late 1950's - then a beaten up, rusted solid Lely hayzip, and a Bamford BL 58 for our equipment.


The finger cutter cut for 50 yards before the rivets holding the clamp for the blade disintegrated - we managed to source some, hit it with a big hammer and got the cutting done  ;D


Then came the hayzip - we'd stripped it down completely and then rebuilt after de-solidifying the rust etc and giving it a coat of pain, replacing some of the tines and re-welding bits, oh and having to sort out an extension for the PTO. So, set of spreading and everything going fine until a couple of the struts broke - so a re-weld was required, then off again. Managed a couple of sets of spreading and mounding up for drying which was great - then the UJ on the PTO end broke and sheared the yoke for the shaft - off to the local agric merchants for a new bit (was more expensive than the whole hayzip!) but got it going again so all was hunky dory  ;D


So - now to the baling. We'd made sure all greasing had been done, the chains were correct tension, new drive belt purchased and our neighbour (who used to have one many moons ago) had helped us set it up so all looked positive  ;D  Got going along the first row and the pickup looked fine, making all the right noises, moving along nicely and the first bale plopped out  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


Carried on up the row ok but after another couple of bales started to get a bad knocking and slipping happening - so all shut down to investigate - the UJ at the flywheel end was worse for wear so we thought that was the rpoblem. Off the agric merchant again and managed to get a UJ to fit, back to the field, fitted the UJ and started again - but the knocking and slipping much worse  :(


We traced it to the bearing in the clutch mechanism - it had disintegrated  :(  In retrospect we think the spring nuts on the clutch plate had been screwed down so far that it seems like the issue had been brewing for some time previous to our possession of the baler - the clutch plate had been screwed donw so far that no slippage was possible so any slip that was needed came from the bearing - over time this has taken its toll and it broke  :(


So now its Fri evening - agric parts place not open til Mon - not sure if we'll be able to source a part anyway - but the rain is on its way  :( :(


We have got 5 bales though  :thumbsup:

Bionic

  • Joined Dec 2010
  • Talley, Carmarthenshire
Re: Mowing hay today....
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2012, 09:18:41 am »
sudanpan, with hindsight do you still think it was worth it to buy old equipment?
Sally
Life is like a bowl of cherries, mostly yummy but some dodgy bits

Sudanpan

  • Joined Jan 2009
  • West Cornwall
    • Movement is Life
Re: Mowing hay today....
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2012, 10:05:43 am »
Sally - given that new equipment would have set us back several thousands of pounds, we only have 2 acres and the one of the reasons for getting the older equipment in the first place was in the knowledge that they would require TLC  ;)  then yes  ;D  Our outlay on the equipment (incl parts) was under 1000.


However it doesn't dispel the immediate frustration of having got so near but yet so far.


We've had a good chat with our local agric parts merchants this am - in fact they were the ones who supplied the baler from new back in the early 70's! - and we have found out what we need. So now we are on the hunt for a Bamfords BS2982 complete clutch unit - any ideas anyone  :innocent: :innocent:




Brucklay

  • Joined Apr 2010
  • Perthshire
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Re: Mowing hay today....
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2012, 10:14:36 am »
Oh Sudanpan - hope you find it - we've had local 'small bale man' in to do ours for the last couple of year and I'm always so nervous when it's lying there waiting to be baled  :fc: :fc:  for you
Pygmy Goats, Shetland Sheep, Zip & Indie the Border Collies, BeeBee the cat and a wreak of a building to renovate!!

robert waddell

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Re: Mowing hay today....
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2012, 11:30:42 am »
is it the complete clutch unit that is required       could the metal parts not be salvaged  and rebuilt with a new friction plate or plates      better that than looking for hens teeth    there are company's that will make up clutch linings
 
the last new b23 cutting machine that we had cost 110 new   and from memory the hayzip cost about 300    both never gave any problem          maybe your hubby was chasing the baler on to fast    old equipment are like old people they just need more time to get here :farmer:

Sudanpan

  • Joined Jan 2009
  • West Cornwall
    • Movement is Life
Re: Mowing hay today....
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2012, 01:16:39 pm »
Robert - the bit that has disintegrated is the internal directional bearing - the one allows the shaft to rotate freely anti-clockwise (to allow the baler ram to slowdown once the PTO power has been stopped). If it was the clutch plates themselves then I am sure we would be able to fashion something, but this is the bit inside. OH did think about welding it but the problem there would be there would be no way of stopping the PTO - the baler momentum would drive the tractor!


We are staying positive (may be unrealistic but hey ho!)
 :fc: :fc:





robert waddell

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Re: Mowing hay today....
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2012, 02:32:38 pm »
ah the dog clutch      would it not be common to other balers :farmer:

Sudanpan

  • Joined Jan 2009
  • West Cornwall
    • Movement is Life
Re: Mowing hay today....
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2012, 07:51:12 pm »
Here are some piccies of the offending articles:

Small Farmer

  • Joined Jan 2012
  • Bedfordshire
Re: Mowing hay today....
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2012, 10:46:46 pm »
Well the lad from Agri college actually turned up on Monday and cut on Tuesday saying that he estimated a minimum of 75 small bales but it could be up to 100. The rain continued to hold off all week and he baled today producing 280 bales.  I'm knackered!


Since we have tarpaulins for about 150 and it's going to rain tomorrow we've been running all over the place for alternatives.
Being certain just means you haven't got all the facts

Sbom

  • Joined Jul 2012
  • Staffordshire
Re: Mowing hay today....
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2012, 11:20:26 pm »
Hi  SUdanpan, just shown my OH your post, he's an Agric mechanic, he says if the drive shaft on the clutch was to be a solid shaft a PTO shaft could be purchased with an overrun assembly on the shaft. Means nothing to me but basically sounds like it could be modified if you can't get the bits you need in time. Is there no one who could bale it for you save it getting wet? Even if you have it round baled you could re bale them on the yard when yours is fixed.
Made us chuckle reading your experience, bloomin typical!
Not that it's gonna make you feel better but we have just got ours in and undercover. Had the 9 year old driving the tractor while we loaded and 5year old been helping stack, starting them young  ;D

Sudanpan

  • Joined Jan 2009
  • West Cornwall
    • Movement is Life
Re: Mowing hay today....
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2012, 07:06:04 pm »
Sbom - many thanks for the input from your OH  ;D  We've been having a bit of a look see on the web to see what options might be avail on that score and have found a tractor PTO overrun clutch that looks like it might be just the ticket  ;D   http://www.silverfoxtractorspares.com/tractor-pto-overrun-clutch-606-p.asp


The shaft on the baler is a smaller diam than a normal PTO, also has more splines, so if we can get this overrun clutch that goes on the tractor PTO, then we can use the baler PTO that has the right coupling for the baler shaft, and all (!) OH has to do is to fix the baler shaft so it doesn't move.....


OH is going to talk to a couple of outfits about the actual Bamford part tomorrow am, but we think the tractor overrun clutch might be a better option in any event.


Will keep you posted!  :fc: :fc:

 

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