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Fruin Farm

  • Joined Feb 2015
Moles
« on: February 13, 2015, 10:18:13 pm »
Does anyone have an ethical solution to moles? I don't mind them being around if I could redirect them into the woodland and out of my field.....any thought much appreciated.

devonlady

  • Joined Aug 2014
Re: Moles
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2015, 08:08:53 am »
I have a very soft spot for moles too and wouldn't harm one. Try jumping up and down near the runs or beating a stick along them. The vibrations may make them move away  :fc:

Bionic

  • Joined Dec 2010
  • Talley, Carmarthenshire
Re: Moles
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2015, 08:18:29 am »
We have had loads of mole hills in the field this year. Much more than previous years. They were even making mounds when the ground was frozen hard. I wish my own digging skills were as good.


I have no idea how to get rid of them or redirect them but OH isn't worried as he says the soil they are bringing up is nice soil. So every cloud......
Life is like a bowl of cherries, mostly yummy but some dodgy bits

devonlady

  • Joined Aug 2014
Re: Moles
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2015, 09:56:49 am »
The soil is good for potting on seedlings.

kelly58

  • Joined Mar 2013
  • Highlands, Scotland
  • Home is were my animals are.
Re: Moles
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2015, 10:23:39 am »
We seem to have more mole hills than usual too  ??? Anyone got any idea why ?

Me

  • Joined Feb 2014
  • Wild West
Re: Moles
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2015, 10:33:06 am »
Mild winter? Not many cold days this year I reckon

Fleecewife

  • Joined May 2010
  • South Lanarkshire
    • ScotHebs
Re: Moles
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2015, 12:03:28 pm »
We are over run too - they even pop up in our polytunnel and tip over new seedlings grr.  Moles are a sign of a healthy soil, with plenty of earthworms.  Our place has been called 'the Mole Sanctuary' because while the surrounding fields which get sprayed and fertilizers used, have no moles to speak of (he also poisons them), our place is like an island of plenty. It's as if they make it under the fence then live a sanctified life.  Except they don't.  One of the down sides of moles is the bare soil they leave.  This gets nibbled at by sheep and lambs, and causes listeriosis (I'll be delighted if someone can tell me I'm wrong there).  Also ewes tend to lamb onto the mole hills - can't imagine why, so the lambs are covered in soil before they've even been licked.  We also once had a ewe which cowped (tipped upside down) over a particularly large mole hill, to be found struggling with her legs waving.  Yes the soil is perfect - in fact we are building a whole new raised bed to use it, BUT the little blighters have to go as things have gone beyond a joke - more mole hill than grass.  This happened once before and a gamekeeper from the big estate came and trapped them for us (at a price).  With the traps, it's a case of 'snap, you're dead' so seems as humane as is possible.  It's not like trapping a fox or a bird, where they can be injured but not killed.
I think I've told the tale before of trying to salt the skins but they all went missing, taken by rats to line their nests  :roflanim:
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SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • Cornwall
  • Rarely short of an opinion but I mean well
    • Trelay Cohousing Community
Re: Moles
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2015, 01:05:00 pm »
Agree with FW.  The other thing I've been told is that at this time of year they're making tunnels looking for mates - so it's not just about earthworms.  I don't know if that's true or not.

BH traps them here, as do the farms round about.  He's told me that it is a sure death but not a very quick one.  So he rues the day they banned strichnine, which he reckons was quicker and surer.  And he wouldn't have used it if he thought it was harming other wildlife.  However, it's not an option now.

We've had people trap them for us too - the going rate now seems to be 5/mole.  Make sure you get the bodies - there have been stories of several farmers paying for the same moles ;) and even some farmers paying repeatedly for the same moles!  (Cue my story about 'recycling' my milk teeth and the Tooth Fairy not twigging on...  :innocent:)

BH and I were talking about the moles the other day, and saying that if we eradicated them we'd probably have to pay someone to do some soil aeration... so they're a mixed blessing in a way.  But the biggest issues relate to the listeriosis risk - as FW says, lambs seem to love to lie on them and we are sure cause more problems with mucky eyes and inturned eyelids, some ewes even lamb onto them, and also, any humps of soil left as the grass begins to grow for cropping can end up in the silage or even the hay - and then you really do have a risk of listeriosis. 
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pgkevet

  • Joined Jul 2011
Re: Moles
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2015, 04:34:34 pm »
Also lots moles... wetter soil with less frosty days.
I like moles, they drain/aerate my land.
You can get ultrasonic prob thingies that run on solar power supposedly useable to get moles to move - never tried them. As soon as fields are dry enough I'll just chain them.

FiB

  • Joined Sep 2011
  • Bala, North Wales
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Re: Moles
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2015, 06:35:47 pm »
We are get more hill than grass in some fields. I also have a soft spot for them.... And also for me sheep, so feel duty bound to make an effort to keep on top of population. I trap a few (please to hear I save myself 5 each time!) it's not hard, but I wish there wasn't a need (I only do it because of what I have heard about soil bourn diseases :-(

Bionic

  • Joined Dec 2010
  • Talley, Carmarthenshire
Re: Moles
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2015, 07:18:26 pm »
Can you make a pet of a mole?
Life is like a bowl of cherries, mostly yummy but some dodgy bits

SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • Cornwall
  • Rarely short of an opinion but I mean well
    • Trelay Cohousing Community
Re: Moles
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2015, 09:57:55 pm »
I forgot to say, I had a friend in Devon went into worm-farming on a field scale.  They found that the sonic deterrents really worked - but you did need a lot of them.  Whether it would be financially viable for stock pasture, I doubt, but it may be something people want to look into for veg plots etc.
Don't listen to the money men - they know the price of everything and the value of nothing

Live in a cohousing community with small farm for our own use.  Dairy cows (rearing their own calves for beef), pigs, sheep for meat and fleece, ducks and hens for eggs, veg and fruit growing

Penninehillbilly

  • Joined Sep 2011
  • West Yorks
Re: Moles
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2015, 10:12:32 pm »
We bought some more mole traps on saturday (previous cheaper ones the 'spring' part snapped, decided it cheaper to pay more). Currently ashamed of the state of the fields, looks like a battle gound.  5! that's cheap, 10 at time here! heard tell of one farmer being stung for 70 moles!  70 x 10!

devonlady

  • Joined Aug 2014
Re: Moles
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2015, 08:40:20 am »
We sold mole skins for 6d each (that's 6 old pence) when children (I wasn't always sentimental!) Though I recall it was always someone else did the trapping and skinning ;D

Caroline1

  • Joined Nov 2014
  • Cambridgeshire
Re: Moles
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2015, 01:50:36 pm »
Glad I am not the only one having mole issues!
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Caroline

 

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