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Surrey Dodger

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Re: Putting a Caravan on land we rent
« Reply #30 on: January 15, 2012, 03:56:13 pm »
Hi Maxwell,
Getting permanent status for a dwelling when involved with equine is harder than when to do with an agriculture dwelling. Not that it isn't possible though.There's quite a few cases of determined folk who have suceeded against planners in being able to permanently reside on equine holdings.

If you were to go down the agricultural route you would be better off going down the precribed route of using the regulations as afforded by the General Permitted Development Order as alluded to in an earlier post. However, to make use of that you would need a holding of 5 hectares some of which you would have to own (although you can rent a fair proportion of your holding on a farm business tenancy).

For your immediate future, moving onto your friends land and residing in a mobile will have the local enforcement team on your backs as soon as they find you. They aren't permitted to carry guns or come with paid muscle,,, so its all basically legal stuff. It can several years for eviction to happen but be warned it could be under a year if planners are on their toes and you don't know what you are doing.

To be clear, I am an agricultural planning consultant but I do agree with Robert Wadell. If you have the time and confidence, all the information, rules, regulations, planning cases and case law are freely available on the internet for you to study. Where I might differ with Robert is that people employ planning consultants to carry out a job for them and employ their expertise just as one may employ any other person to do a specialised job for them.

Good luck which route you take :)
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doganjo

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Re: Putting a Caravan on land we rent
« Reply #31 on: January 15, 2012, 04:05:57 pm »
I still say that a planning consultant is what you need - not to get planning consent but to let you know what the possibilities  of success or otherwise are and the likely time-scales.  I don't believe it would be a huge amount of money and I think it would be worth it.
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Fowgill Farm

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Re: Putting a Caravan on land we rent
« Reply #32 on: January 16, 2012, 10:43:24 am »
Would love to help but fortunately for us our architect did all the planning stuff so never actually saw any forms myself. Whatever you decide best of luck
Mandy  :pig:

katie

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Re: Putting a Caravan on land we rent
« Reply #33 on: January 16, 2012, 04:59:01 pm »
I agree with Jo - you need to talk this through with a consultant. You can ring them up and ask how much a consultation would cost.

doganjo

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Re: Putting a Caravan on land we rent
« Reply #34 on: January 16, 2012, 06:39:16 pm »
I agree with Jo - you need to talk this through with a consultant. You can ring them up and ask how much a consultation would cost.
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katie

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Re: Putting a Caravan on land we rent
« Reply #35 on: January 16, 2012, 09:45:33 pm »
Ah. Sorry. It was an uninspired guess!

doganjo

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Re: Putting a Caravan on land we rent
« Reply #36 on: January 16, 2012, 09:48:59 pm »
Ah. Sorry. It was an uninspired guess!
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escapefromsuburbia

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Re: Putting a Caravan on land we rent
« Reply #37 on: September 02, 2016, 08:35:39 pm »
HI

I was hoping someone might be able to assist.

I am currently looking to purchase a 12 achre plus agricultural site with the view of developing a small holding. Once purchased I intend to submit a agri 28 day notice for a new agricultural building with the view that this will allow me to have a caravan sited on the land for 5 years whilst it is constrcuted.

Could anyone advise where in the planning legislation it stages that you can site a caravan whilst the agricultural building is constructed.

Also, once the five years is up, assuming the small holding has developmedn and is making profit, am I correct in thinking I can apply for planing permission for a dwelling, and if so will it be tied to the use of the land, ie, it cannot be sold on at a later date.

Thanks in advance for your help.

 

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