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princesspiggy

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what breed?
« on: August 05, 2011, 11:34:11 pm »
we were in snowdonia this week, i couldnt resist taking these snaps. any idea what breed?  :wave:

SallyintNorth

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Re: what breed?
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2011, 11:47:08 pm »
We're not sure.  BH says the horns are like Welsh Black, but the Welsh Black is a much more beefy animal than these.  Could they be a cross - Welsh Black bull on a dairy cow?

I wondered Dexter?
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shep53

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  • Dumfries & Galloway
Re: what breed?
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2011, 06:31:18 pm »
Look like welsh black heifers in their summer coats :farmer: :wave:

SallyintNorth

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Re: what breed?
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2011, 08:28:09 pm »
Just seen a plate of a Kerry cow in a 1924 agriculture book and it looks just like these but with a smooth coat.

My money is still on Dexters - no-one out there got some and can tell us?
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VSS

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Re: what breed?
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2011, 09:09:28 pm »
In snowdonia and on that sort of land you can be pretty safe by betting on welsh black with horns.
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chickenfeed

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Re: what breed?
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2011, 09:39:44 pm »
they dont look like my dexters i would guess at welsh black too  ;)

princesspiggy

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Re: what breed?
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2011, 11:13:29 am »
they were a bit bigger than my shetlands, quite a thick curlyish coat. nice though.  :wave:

Dougal

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Re: what breed?
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2011, 04:18:53 pm »
doubt that it'll be a welsh black, thier a polled beed are they not? Sure it's not a cross bred, a dairy/lim that wasn't dehorned?
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VSS

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Re: what breed?
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2011, 08:55:06 pm »
Welsh Blacks are not generally polled, although polled individuals do crop up from time to time.
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Hannes

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Re: what breed?
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2011, 09:05:11 am »
Could also be a Galloway cross... we also have that sometimes that our galloway bulls serve the dairy girls...various results... :o

monkeysox

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  • Colchester, Essex
Re: what breed?
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2011, 12:42:45 pm »
My money is on Welsh Blacks  :cow:

Hopewell

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Re: what breed?
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2011, 02:03:43 pm »
I also think they are Welsh Black. The breed standard does describe them as having horns.

danndans

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Re: what breed?
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2011, 01:08:07 pm »
They dont look like my Dexter's either, but the back end looks to heavey for a welsh black, I'd go for a WB cross  ;)
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belgianblue

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Re: what breed?
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2011, 07:17:20 pm »
not thought of Aberdeen Angus,

Dexter's are short legs round guts and bolsie look about them

SallyintNorth

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Re: what breed?
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2011, 07:30:58 pm »
They're definitely not Aberdeen Angus.  AA's are polled, for one thing, and a much better shape than these girls, for another.

To us, Welsh Blacks are more beefy than these ladies, hence we suggested WB out of dairy cows.

There are long-legged and short-legged Dexters.  I just saw a Dexter heifer in the ring at Lanark, but she had horns like a Shetland (at least, like Rosemary's Shetlands, I've never seen any others) not upturned like these ladies.
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