I agree with VSS. 'tipping' a sheep is a knack well worth learning and it goes hand in hand with general handling ability. The deckchair thing was mentioned on here before, somewhere. We did get one for our Jacobs years ago. They are sized for big sheep, but the first one we had bent under the weight of a Jacob - not the heaviest of sheep. Tipping the sheep into the chair is more difficult than 'tipping' it onto it's bum (more opportunity for it to dig in its toes), and is a two man job. The chair is too big for smaller breeds - ours is hanging up in the barn hidden under a layer of cobwebs. A turning crate is something for someone with a lot of sheep, a lot of money and a bad back.