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Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: craig on September 11, 2010, 04:10:52 pm

Title: HANDLING SYSTEMS
Post by: craig on September 11, 2010, 04:10:52 pm
Has anyone got any drawings diagrams or links to sites of handling system layouts???  Shedding race, working race,holding pens,forcing pens etc etc. 

                                                                                Cheers. Craig.
Title: Re: HANDLING SYSTEMS
Post by: supplies for smallholders on September 11, 2010, 08:23:33 pm
Hi,

Have a look at : http://www.coxagri.com/alligator/1/priorityascending/catalogue.html (http://www.coxagri.com/alligator/1/priorityascending/catalogue.html)

We are Cox agents so if you need any of it pricing up give us a try.

Thanks
Title: Re: HANDLING SYSTEMS
Post by: VSS on September 12, 2010, 05:02:40 pm
This might be of some use

(http://www.viableselfsufficiency.co.uk/handling system.jpg)

As seen in "The Sheep Book for Smallholders".
Title: Re: HANDLING SYSTEMS
Post by: waterhouse on September 12, 2010, 05:37:06 pm
"You can never have enough hurdles" was said to me by a smallholder before we got the sheep.  So I bought 20 and then used most of them as treeguards, so I bought 20 more.  Then I found them around the beehives so I need some more.  They beat pallets...
Title: Re: HANDLING SYSTEMS
Post by: Rosemary on September 12, 2010, 10:09:40 pm
Tim's book's really good, by the way. I bought one (a signed copy, no less) for a chum of mine and she's gone off on holiday for three weeks. Hope she's read it by the ime she gets back, so I can borrow it.
Title: Re: HANDLING SYSTEMS
Post by: Rosemary on September 12, 2010, 10:15:48 pm
A friend of mine has a Modulamb system that seems very good. In particular, she has a crate for holding individual sheep for, well, almost anything - and it's raised to save the old back!
Title: Re: HANDLING SYSTEMS
Post by: humphreymctush on September 13, 2010, 08:19:29 pm
To save money I invented a forcing gate that hinges in the middle made out of 2 small hurdles. The point of this is that you dont need expensive curved hurdles for the gate to follow and you dont need the sliding reversable type of forcing gate becauce you can fold the gate back on itself to collect the next batch. I hope the photos are clear enough, as you can see orkney's a bit foggy this evening.
Title: Re: HANDLING SYSTEMS
Post by: humphreymctush on September 13, 2010, 08:21:25 pm
here's another
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Post by: humphreymctush on September 13, 2010, 08:22:35 pm
and another
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Post by: humphreymctush on September 13, 2010, 08:35:04 pm
and a bigger one
Title: Re: HANDLING SYSTEMS
Post by: craig on September 17, 2010, 06:15:49 pm
Thanks for the info guys, how many sheep do you farm Humphrey???
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Post by: andywalt on September 17, 2010, 06:54:54 pm
great set up
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Post by: humphreymctush on September 18, 2010, 10:13:08 am
38 breeding females I think
Title: Re: HANDLING SYSTEMS
Post by: humphreymctush on September 20, 2010, 05:16:05 pm
here are some lambs squashed up in the forcing pen
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Post by: humphreymctush on September 20, 2010, 05:18:21 pm
They go into the race of their own free will
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Post by: humphreymctush on September 20, 2010, 05:19:53 pm
heres the last couple going in with the forcing gate closed right in
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Post by: andywalt on September 20, 2010, 08:15:54 pm
great photos of the system, the sheep and the dogs... what breed sheep are they humpfry?
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Post by: humphreymctush on September 21, 2010, 07:41:41 am
these are this years lambs. Some are pure shetland and some are shetlandxsuffolk
Title: Re: HANDLING SYSTEMS
Post by: andywalt on September 21, 2010, 09:10:50 am
I thought I could see some suffolk in them, how do you find them to handle? are they good parents at lambing time? do they need much assistance at lambing? what do they taste like?  ;D ;D

I hope you dont mind me throwing you some questions?

cheers

andy
Title: Re: HANDLING SYSTEMS
Post by: humphreymctush on September 21, 2010, 12:04:06 pm
suffolks are easy to handle because they are docile although they are quite big. All my ewes are shetland. I have no suffolk ewes because they are not good mothers and would often require assistance at lambing time, I have a suffolk ram who I use on the shetland ewes to make butchers lambs. I use a shetland ram on the gimmers so they have a smaller lamb for their first time. The female pure-bred lambs are for breeding and the wethers I sometimes grow on for mutton. This year I am also selling some female suffolk shetland cross lambs as breeding ewes.
Title: Re: HANDLING SYSTEMS
Post by: andywalt on September 21, 2010, 01:10:26 pm
Thats interesting, so shetlands are very good mothers? and medium sized? and you use the size of the suffolk ram to give good lambs for meat.  The flock I am getting in a few weeks are suffolk x kent ewes...ive never heard of a kent ewe but hopefully are better mothers
Title: Re: HANDLING SYSTEMS
Post by: humphreymctush on September 21, 2010, 05:40:22 pm
shetlands are small