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Livestock => Cattle => Topic started by: oor wullie on May 06, 2018, 10:45:44 am

Title: Temporary Movement
Post by: oor wullie on May 06, 2018, 10:45:44 am

I've been offered grazing for a couple of months through the summer on land adjacent to my croft and hope to put a couple of cows on it.

How does the paperwork work for this?

I will still be the owner and responsible keeper for the animals and so don't want to transfer them as I would if I had sold them (anyway the landowner doesn't have a herd number (yes he does have a CPH)).

Google suggests I can create a temporary land association so the field comes under my CPH for a period.  Does this apply in Scotland and how do I go about it?

Title: Re: Temporary Movement
Post by: shep53 on May 06, 2018, 12:15:19 pm

Have a look on the Scot Gov site at Scot move's  this was set up last year so you can use Scot eid for simple movement's to grass parks or in your case contiguous land ?

Title: Re: Temporary Movement
Post by: Rosemary on May 07, 2018, 07:47:01 am

Phone ScotMoves at Inverurie.

You used to be able to link grazings that were less than 5  miles apart so you didn't do a passport movement but just put it in your herd register but it changes last year and now you have to record the movement on ScotMoves but it's not a passport move. I think.

Title: Re: Temporary Movement
Post by: oor wullie on May 11, 2018, 06:02:04 pm

Thanks folks.
ScotEID runs Scotmoves which can link holdings and so cattle moves can be recorded with them, no need for a proper movement on the passport or even any record in my herd book.
You have to apply to them in advance to get everything set up though.

Title: Re: Temporary Movement
Post by: Backinwellies on May 11, 2018, 06:48:03 pm

Can anyone tell me the procedure in Wales?

Title: Re: Temporary Movement
Post by: bj_cardiff on May 12, 2018, 06:35:02 am

Procedure in wales last time I enquired in relation to sheep (maybe 3 yrs ago) was that if it was under 10 miles you didn't need to do anything or notify anyone if it was just your sheep on the land. It seems crazy to me, the woman said to maybe make a note on your flock register of which sheep were at the other address.

Title: Re: Temporary Movement
Post by: Faye.Lear on May 31, 2018, 06:26:11 pm

Sorry to jump on this late, but does the 'land within 10 mile rule' apply to sheep and cattle? Or do cattle have to be pre-movement tested for every time they move regardless of the distance from your actual holding?

I've been very lucky not to have to move the cattle off my land other than to the abbatoir, but once the herd grows they will have to go onto other grazing locally.


Thanks in advance!