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Smallholding => Buildings & planning => Topic started by: LeanneR88 on January 22, 2018, 07:46:09 pm

Title: Large Shed help....
Post by: LeanneR88 on January 22, 2018, 07:46:09 pm: Looking to put up a large Shed roughly 40ft x 40ft on a rough bit of land at side of house to be used for horses and sheep.

Ideally would be built so far up with bricks then metal frame on top.

Is permission needed for this? We are based in Aberdeenshire
Title: Re: Large Shed help....
Post by: winkhound on January 22, 2018, 09:01:17 pm: im not sure about planning laws in Scotland but you should just ask your local planning officer.

building your shed as described doesn't sound like it will work to me, so prob best do some research first. easiest/quickest would be steel frame and if you wanted brick in fill.
Title: Re: Large Shed help....
Post by: Perris on January 23, 2018, 08:38:54 am: what you need to know is here, or links to relevant sites if different in Scotland https://www.planningportal.co.uk/info/200130/common_projects/43/outbuildings (https://www.planningportal.co.uk/info/200130/common_projects/43/outbuildings)
Title: Re: Large Shed help....
Post by: LeanneR88 on January 23, 2018, 12:29:26 pm: I agree the way I described it doesn't seem right!!!

My partners dad is helping me to look at designs etc never done anything like this before!!!

Thanks for the link will have a read of it now :)
Title: Re: Large Shed help....
Post by: bazzais on January 23, 2018, 05:40:48 pm: Its normally advisable not to mention horses as they are not classed as agricultural animals unless they are working horses. As far as I lnow you cant get agri planning if its got anything to do with with horses.

I would think calling it an 'implement shed' to store and service any working vehicles would be the best route.

You would need to show that you needed the shed for agricultural activities - so you would probably need to show the independent assessor the amount of stock you have or what land you are farming for a living and why you need a shed to help you better your business.
Title: Re: Large Shed help....
Post by: bazzais on January 23, 2018, 05:41:53 pm: Actually just read again - its by your house so in the curtalidge and your asking about permitted development. - doh

its far too big for permitted development.
Title: Re: Large Shed help....
Post by: LeanneR88 on January 23, 2018, 09:08:08 pm: Whats the rule on size for permitted development?
Title: Re: Large Shed help....
Post by: landroverroy on January 23, 2018, 10:03:21 pm: Quote from: bazzais on January 23, 2018, 05:41:53 pm
Actually just read again - its by your house so in the curtalidge and your asking about permitted development. - doh

its far too big for permitted development.

A "rough bit of land at the side of the house to be used for horses and sheep" sounds far to big to be included as curtilage.

However, in the unlikely event that it is part of the curtilage, then a 40' x 40' shed would not be too big (provided it took up no more than half of the curtilage). It would certainly be considered as permitted development and as such would not need planning. There are, however, restrictions as to siting and height of the building.

Do a bit of research on the internet and find out for yourself the definition of curtilage and its permitted rights. But whatever you do - do not consult the council planners. You might be lucky and get a rare helpful one, but most are not worth talking to and are very negative. For a successful outcome you are better reading up or talking to a professional planner. Mine charges £65/hour and is worth every penny. Do it once - do it right.