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Livestock => Poultry & Waterfowl => Topic started by: in the hills on September 22, 2017, 02:39:18 pm

Title: Worming individual birds
Post by: in the hills on September 22, 2017, 02:39:18 pm
My father just has 3 pullets at present and would like to routinely worm them. He wanted to know if there was a way of worming each individual bird rather than using Flubenvet pellets as he would normally do to worm the flock.
They free range and are hardly eating any pellets so wanted a wormer that could just be administered to each bird.


I said that I would ask on here to see if anyone worms in that way.
Title: Re: Worming individual birds
Post by: Womble on September 22, 2017, 02:45:38 pm
We've used "panacur small animal" worming liquid before for ducks and geese. This was at our vet's recommendation. You can administer it by squirting it down the back of the bird's throat with a small syringe. However, I believe that it's not officially licensed for poultry producing eggs for food, so you need to figure out for yourself if you're happy with that.
Title: Re: Worming individual birds
Post by: landroverroy on September 22, 2017, 03:32:25 pm
I too use Panacur. I put it on damp bread or something that they particularly like even if not hungry. Otherwise can mix it with their food in the morning, before they are let out, when they will be hungry and eat it quite readily.
Title: Re: Worming individual birds
Post by: in the hills on September 22, 2017, 03:48:22 pm
Thanks both.


Can you buy from the agricultural store? Is it the one made for cats?
Dose?


Or did you get from the vet?
Title: Re: Worming individual birds
Post by: Womble on September 22, 2017, 05:22:19 pm
It's this stuff that we used (https://www.hyperdrug.co.uk/Panacur-10-100ml-for-dogs-cats-puppies---kittens/Productinfo/PANL1/). The dose was the cause of considerable veterinary head scratching (partly because they didn't know how much a duck weighed, and insisted I brought one down to the surgery to find out - cue the witch scene from a certain Monty Python film). There was also some debate as to whether the dose should be a one-off, or if it needed to be repeated daily for three days.

Unfortunately I can't remember what the final conclusion was, so you'd be best asking a vet!
Title: Re: Worming individual birds
Post by: landroverroy on September 22, 2017, 06:24:55 pm
Yes you can use the one for cats/dogs.
Somewhere on the internet is the dose for poultry. I found it one day and will probably never find it again. You might be lucky.
I seem to think it was similar to the pro rata dose used for dogs. So weigh the hens and work it out and give for several days as recommended for dogs,
Panacur has a very high safety margin, and is used on humans in developing countries; so is a very safe wormer.
Title: Re: Worming individual birds
Post by: nimbusllama on September 22, 2017, 11:18:44 pm
What about Panacur for pigeons?  Should be available in a pet shop.
Title: Re: Worming individual birds
Post by: in the hills on September 24, 2017, 05:29:55 pm
Thank you all, will look into dosage for the panacur.   :chook:
Title: Re: Worming individual birds
Post by: chrismahon on September 28, 2017, 09:56:21 am
We worm individual birds with Flubenvet mixed with Olive oil. The 1% scoop of 6g is sufficient for two large fowl for 7 days and mixes OK with 15mL, so is given as a 1mL 'shot' when the bird has a full crop. Two problems though are mixing it, as it rapidly drops out of suspension and major risk of the bird inhaling it and choking. So essentially it's not a procedure I'd recommend for regular use but can be used in an emergency if the bird is ill and not eating treated pellets.


We have found that the first or second day's shot is sufficient to kill any worms so we now administer just 3 shots on days 1, 2 and 7 (to kill hatched eggs). We also use the 2.5% Flubenvet which reduces the amount to administer to 0.5mL and reduces the risk of choking.
Title: Re: Worming individual birds
Post by: Steph Hen on October 11, 2017, 06:23:56 pm
You can get spot on ivermectin for pigeons and parrots and work out the dose per kg.
Title: Re: Worming individual birds
Post by: farmers wife on October 17, 2017, 09:00:41 pm
Im not a fan of routine worming - as for organic system they expect you to FEC which can be done in the post. A local vet even (even do it yourself if you can be bothered).  Especially if your birds have fresh pasture and big area.  I have never had an issue with worms.
Title: Re: Worming individual birds
Post by: Penninehillbilly on October 18, 2017, 12:10:57 pm
I followed someone's advice and used sheep wormer, given by mouth. With water so I didn't overdose, only a drop or 2, brought a hen back from almost dead.
Good nudge, i have one just now who is moulting and not looking good, I think that's when you see the symptoms of parasites more, poor hen is needing nutrition the parasites are taking  :(