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Growing => Identification => Topic started by: SafeHaven on July 01, 2017, 04:21:19 pm

Title: Plant IDs needed please
Post by: SafeHaven on July 01, 2017, 04:21:19 pm
Can anyone help with these? I'll just upload the pics and I guess just refer to them in order, plant 1, plant 2, etc

1. Is this ragwort? Or just some kind of meadow flower?

2. Grape? I can't see any fruit of any kind on it. Or flowers.

3. The plant with the elongated leaves

4. Has yellow flowers
Title: Re: Plant IDs needed please
Post by: arobwk on July 01, 2017, 06:46:32 pm
1. Dunno
2. Not grape! Looks more like bramble, but I'm thinking you'll know a bramble.
3. Possibly Californian clematis (if it's evergreen).
4. I would say that is a type of Berberis.  (Lovely plants until you need to prune one!!!  If any one considering planting one, plant it where is can grow without maintenance or invest in the best thorn-proof gloves/gauntlets that money can buy - the thorns are "lethal".)
Title: Re: Plant IDs needed please
Post by: SafeHaven on July 01, 2017, 07:37:33 pm
Thanks! That's something to go on...
The "not grape" is definitely not bramble... there's plenty of those too! But this is different. Each leave has those three lobes, and sends out sort of tendrils, not really as curly as grape vines, but reaching out, kind of like a honesysuckle does.
Title: Re: Plant IDs needed please
Post by: arobwk on July 01, 2017, 10:23:41 pm
Re no. 2:  OK, I have no idea what it is, but something related to a strawberry is what comes to mind !!!!
Title: Re: Plant IDs needed please
Post by: Fleecewife on July 02, 2017, 01:48:21 am
I don't know what any of them are, but none is a ragwort.


I once landed backside first in a Berberis  :-[
Title: Re: Plant IDs needed please
Post by: arobwk on July 02, 2017, 08:31:13 pm
I once landed backside first in a Berberis  :-[

Oooh - bet that hurt for days!
Title: Re: Plant IDs needed please
Post by: Terry T on July 02, 2017, 08:34:28 pm
1. Not ragwort, I would guess some kind of hawksbit,
2. Hops?
3. Some kind of clematis?

Title: Re: Plant IDs needed please
Post by: SafeHaven on July 02, 2017, 09:50:00 pm
1. Not ragwort, I would guess some kind of hawksbit,
2. Hops?
3. Some kind of clematis?

Yes! Hops! Humulus Lupulus. Although I don't see any flowers as yet. And don't like beer.  :yuck: But I do like to make wine and other home brews so maybe worth a go if I ever get any flowers... you guys are awesome.
Title: Re: Plant IDs needed please
Post by: Possum on July 04, 2017, 10:35:14 pm
1. Not ragwort - too small.
2. Definitely a hop.
Title: Re: Plant IDs needed please
Post by: Possum on July 04, 2017, 10:42:30 pm
3. Could be a clematis. Possibly a Russian vine  :(
4. Possibly a euphorbia?
Title: Re: Plant IDs needed please
Post by: arobwk on July 07, 2017, 07:47:08 pm
Intrigued by the identification of no.2 as a hop, I just had to do an image search.  It would indeed appear to be so.  Interestingly, I also find strawberries are very distantly related (i.e. same plant order). 
Title: Re: Plant IDs needed please
Post by: SafeHaven on July 20, 2017, 07:47:11 pm
I never knew hops were related to strawberries!

Since I posted that picture, it's gone crazy, marching across anything in its path. It's popping out of every single shrub and bush in the garden. I'll leave it to flower before deciding whether to do anything with it. I'm looking forward to working with hops for the first time. I guess the success of my first brew will govern how I decide.  :yuck:
Title: Re: Plant IDs needed please
Post by: SallyintNorth on July 20, 2017, 09:03:13 pm
Oooh... interesting...  Hops grow rampant, good cover... Would hops cover a human-made dirt bank, do people think?  Are they very thirst plants, or not?
Title: Re: Plant IDs needed please
Post by: arobwk on July 24, 2017, 08:24:23 pm
Oooh... interesting...  Hops grow rampant, good cover... Would hops cover a human-made dirt bank, do people think?  Are they very thirst plants, or not?

Can't advise re hops, but, getting back to the hop's distant cousin, strawberries also make decent ground-cover.  However, rubus tricolor (chinese bramble) is another good-un.  It is described as evergreen, but I haven't monitored the patches that I know of carefully enough to verify whether evergreen or semi-.  Seems to be a bit variable as regards fruiting, but, if one is lucky, they are edible and have a nice-enough taste (albeit nothing as distinctive as blackberry, raspberry etc).  Almost certainly not as rampant as hops, but the hop is not evergreen as far as I know (although I stand ready to be corrected on that).  To note, the chinese bramble bears no physical resemblance to the bramble we all love and hate: in particular, no thorns!