The Accidental Smallholder Forum
Smallholding => Equipment => Topic started by: CarolineJ on August 29, 2016, 12:31:39 pm
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Or I will do once the seller gets the hydraulics double-checked - they're working, but he says he won't take my money off me until it's been to a mechanic and he's certain it'll lift more than just me sitting on it, as it was struggling a little with his mower.
Can anyone recommend a good book for teaching me how to maintain it properly? I found this on Amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Massey-Ferguson-Tractor-Workshop-Service/dp/1908397128 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Massey-Ferguson-Tractor-Workshop-Service/dp/1908397128)
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Ooooooo , I had a MF35 4 cylinder though, at that time so did both the neighbors either side , but I was the only one with a workshop manual ( I'm like that ) it was rarely opened !.
The 3 pont linkage should be capable of lifting just over a tonne , when new , so account for age !
If it is already in good order then its change oil using the correct oil to preserve the oil seals , I did mine once a year for all the work it did , same with the filters oil, air and fuel , keep the backend oil to the correct level and clean.
Oh and buy it a new best friend..... a grease gun ( with grease ! )
When and if you get a book on it write the engine & gearbox numbers and the year on it. Bits are easy to get , advice even easier up here as everyone's father /grand father had one .
The only trouble I ever had was when I first got it and stripped the steering worm housing and lost the ball bearings, thinking all maybe lost I took the drive of shame to Inverurie to the dealer in the vain hope of getting spares for such an old tractor. The parts chap ( aged about 300 ) just looked at me with an expressionless face when I told him what had happened , he dissapeared , shortly returning with a new worm housing and 21 new ball bearings and another somber faced chap.
There then followed a bit of a telling off, then instructions on how to fit it all back together.
I purchased a copy of the dealer workshop manual , but rarely opened it as the 35 is so simple.
Keep the paint work nice too. I regret selling her .
( thats the short reply :thumbsup: )
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You have bought one of the best tractors ever made..one that was streets ahead of the competition at the time it was introduced, and ideal for the smallholder as it is light powerful and manouverable. Parts are readily easily and cheaply available....though seldom needed. The early models had a standard 4 cylinder engine which was difficult to start...but they have been modified and sorted generally these days. Next came the 3 cylinder Perkins engine which is legendary.
Show it a grease gun once in a while, change the oil every couple of years......most of them have lasted about 50 years on this basis....working full time on farms...not once in a while on a small holding. Keep antifreeze/ water level checked.
I have one of the very first 35 models...nov 1956. My dad bought it in 1978... When it was already 22 years old....it's now just short of 60 years old !
What year and what engine is the one you have bought ? They were made until 1963-4 when the 135 was introduced. Essentially the same machine with a different bonnet and slightly more advanced hydraulics.
Ps I'd suggest buying an original users/operators manual. Reprints are available from a number of sources. I think there are supplements available to cover which engine you have.
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Thank you both :thumbsup: I am embarrassed to say that I have absolutely no idea what engine or year it is - I've bought it on the advice of a tractor-fanatic friend who came across it when going to see a topper and realised it would be perfect for me. I shall report back when it arrives!
(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll302/cazmanian_minx/tractor%201_zpsfjbxey8p.jpg)
(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll302/cazmanian_minx/tractor%202_zpsjwuaps8g.jpg)
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If the oily bits are as good as the exterior it looks a good buy.
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Its the 3 cylinder perkins model. Good buy.
Have you sorted insurance ? If not IMHO you are best with one of the vintage insurance people. You will get this insured for about £50 a year, ill let you know the company I use if interested...they cover agricultural use (some don't- just covering social domestic pleasure and show grounds). However if you go to NFU as a working tractor they will want something like £200.
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Its the 3 cylinder perkins model. Good buy.
Have you sorted insurance ? If not IMHO you are best with one of the vintage insurance people. You will get this insured for about £50 a year, ill let you know the company I use if interested...they cover agricultural use (some don't- just covering social domestic pleasure and show grounds). However if you go to NFU as a working tractor they will want something like £200.
That's a brilliant tip, thank you - I'm with Farmers & Mercantile and was simply going to add it to that, so yes please, if you could let me know who you use. I need to get it registered to go on the road with DVLA as well, don't I? Otherwise I won't be able to drive it between my two crofts and up to the common grazings.
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Yes, I suggest if it hasn't got a v5, look to friends of Ferguson heritage.
I've never done it but I believe they will be able to help you register your tractor with an age related plate. This is much better than a q plate which just doesn't look right and I would say ultimately devalues them.
See there web site..you might have to join the club for a year but it will be worth it.
One thing I noticed on your photos , you can't see its identification plate which is normally on the dash, it could be it is obscured in the photo by the steering wheel, it could be its been sprayed over when the tractor was re sprayed.......but if it isn't there I would be asking questions....there maybe a genuine explanation, but it might point to a questionable past. Sounds like the bloke you are buying from is genuine though given the hydraulics thing.
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Thanks - I found the Ferguson site, and it's £20 to join for a year and £55 for the DVLA registration, but it seems they'll handle it all for you if you send the engine number etc. :thumbsup:
All the tin got replaced rather than being resprayed and the ID plate was lost with it. The guy who did the restoration has an excellent reputation in the area and I've been told he will always come and have a look at one he's done if there's ever a problem with it, which is also reassuring!
I'm hoping I can get not just an age-related plate, but a local age-related plate - the local prefix was NS for North Sutherland, but suspect one may cost me more than the tractor!
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Of course are you sure it isn't already registered ? It unusual for them to get to 50 years or so old and never have been registered.
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I suppose it might - if I get the number off the engine, will DVLA be able to tell me?
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Not sure...
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Three NS plates available, starting price £2,600 - so yes, more than I'm paying for the tractor! Fingers crossed it already has one assigned then.
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Are you sure that applies to agricultural machines ?
I understood they are non - transferable .
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Of course are you sure it isn't already registered ? It unusual for them to get to 50 years or so old and never have been registered.
my 1968 ford has never been registered, that said do a lot of research ,it may just pay off.
after owning the ford for 10 years I eventually met the man who sold it new . he lifted the bonnet flap and there covered in rust was the dealers plate !
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Thank you both :thumbsup: I am embarrassed to say that I have absolutely no idea what engine or year it is - I've bought it on the advice of a tractor-fanatic friend who came across it when going to see a topper and realised it would be perfect for me. I shall report back when it arrives!
(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll302/cazmanian_minx/tractor%201_zpsfjbxey8p.jpg)
(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll302/cazmanian_minx/tractor%202_zpsjwuaps8g.jpg)
OOooooooh Tractor porn
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I had a neighbour who wanted to get her father's SK plate from his tractor onto her car - apparently the only legal way to do it was tractor to quad bike, quad bike to motorcycle, motorcycle to car, and you had to space them out well, otherwise DVLA got suspicious!
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Hmmm...very clever !
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OOooooooh Tractor porn
I know!
I really want to need one of them. Gutted I don't now! :roflanim:
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OK I cant help myself but indulge .....my 35 at work... or is it play ? :excited:
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Very envious. Great bit of kit that is good for another 60 yrs farm work. I believe you have stolen it at that price. You shouldn't need to buy a reg no though- dvla should provide an appropriate one of paperwork in order. Don't do what I did and forget to sorn it. It just cost me fifty quid for a tractor that is exempt from VED. Enjoy.
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Have you got it home yet ?
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Being delivered on Friday ;D Just in time for me to lock it in the shed and go on holiday!
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They got tied up on a job much longer than expected, so it's going to have to stay at the garage until we're back from holiday - I'll have to drive down there in the morning and tell them when we're back so they don't try to deliver it while we're away.
Talking to various sets of neighbours, I've been told not to bother registering it with DVLA (there's no paperwork with it and it doesn't have numberplates, so I'm assuming they don't know about it) - they all drive theirs 'under permit' and tell me that as long as I'm not taking it more than 6 miles from my home address and I've got insurance, I'm fine. Is that right? All it's going to be doing is going between my fields on the village road and up onto the common grazings to bring the peats back once a year, which involves about a mile on the main road.
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They got tied up on a job much longer than expected, so it's going to have to stay at the garage until we're back from holiday - I'll have to drive down there in the morning and tell them when we're back so they don't try to deliver it while we're away.
Talking to various sets of neighbours, I've been told not to bother registering it with DVLA (there's no paperwork with it and it doesn't have numberplates, so I'm assuming they don't know about it) - they all drive theirs 'under permit' and tell me that as long as I'm not taking it more than 6 miles from my home address and I've got insurance, I'm fine. Is that right? All it's going to be doing is going between my fields on the village road and up onto the common grazings to bring the peats back once a year, which involves about a mile on the main road.
My Ford has never been registered and I go on short trips just 3rd party ins . A lot of tractors on the tractor runs round here ar'nt reg, either. On the road just make sure you can bee seen Hi viz / lights / man in front with red flag,( just kidding about the flag man :) )
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In the end, they delivered it about five minutes before we were due to leave for the airport, so there was much running around and trying not to get grease on my travelling clothes while I got the engine number off it for the insurance paperwork and scanned it over to the broker.
Despite sitting outside under a tarpaulin for the best part of two weeks, she started first time. I've now had my driving lesson from John Angie and both the tractor and the village survived the experience (we took her down the village to our other crofts, which John used to work, and he helped me attach an old digger bucket to the back so we can use it to cart stuff around), so now it's just a matter of time, practice and gaining confidence. She is a little gem of a tractor and I'm feeling like the luckiest crofter in the Highlands right now ;D
(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll302/cazmanian_minx/tractor%203_zpsvb0tofjv.jpg)
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In the end, they delivered it about five minutes before we were due to leave for the airport, so there was much running around and trying not to get grease on my travelling clothes while I got the engine number off it for the insurance paperwork and scanned it over to the broker.
Despite sitting outside under a tarpaulin for the best part of two weeks, she started first time. I've now had my driving lesson from John Angie and both the tractor and the village survived the experience (we took her down the village to our other crofts, which John used to work, and he helped me attach an old digger bucket to the back so we can use it to cart stuff around), so now it's just a matter of time, practice and gaining confidence. She is a little gem of a tractor and I'm feeling like the luckiest crofter in the Highlands right now ;D
(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll302/cazmanian_minx/tractor%203_zpsvb0tofjv.jpg)
I had to click the like button as there isn't an envy one........
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It looks very smart indeed.
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That is a thing of beauty. I have an old 135 I plan to do up gradually. The 35 is one of the prettiest tractors ever made.